Russian Reactions to Andijan

by Laurence on 6/15/2005 · 5 comments

Ferghana.Ru has published some critical reaction from Russia, plus this response:

Here is the impression the trip to Uzbekistan made on Vitaly Tretiakov of Politichesky Klass journal, ex-chief editor of Nezavisimaya Gazeta.

Tretiakov: Visit to Uzbekistan became clearly the most important event of the previous week. I visited Andizhan and met with President Islam Karimov. Needless to say, the conversation was centered around the events in Andizhan on May 12 – 14. What can I say? It is clear that this was a well planned and organized armed rebellion with political undertones at best. It was nothing even remotely resembling crowds of noncombatants driven to despair (and subsequently to the streets) by impoverishment. By the way, Andizhan is fairly a prosperous city by Uzbek standards. So, it was nothing of the sort. Moreover, whoever visited Andizhan knows that no demonstrations or noncombatants were gunned down or anything. Sure, there were certain clashes, but the situation called for it. Any government will take measures like that when prisons and military units are seized and when automatic rifles disappear from the latter. I’d even say that response of many government would have been even stiffer. So, when one sees something with his own eyes, even afterwards, even when he sees the place itself, very many things appear in a different light – even despite what certain media outlets reports. Summing up, I’d say that grudges against the government of Uzbekistan are absolutely absurd by 95%, they are groundless and therefore political. I do not regularly visit places where something like that happens, and that’s what makes it so important for me and compels me to speak out.


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david_walther June 16, 2005 at 7:48 am

“fairly prosperious by uzbek standards”, you have to love that. just a reminder that uzbek standards are, officially, $6.50 a month… yeah, that works out to 4 cents an hour. and the kicker to that is that a lot of people work six day weeks here.

so you have the word of one journalist, who the police allowed into the city (and allowed to interview people? note that they would have never let him enter the city and meet with the president unless they ALREADY KNEW

david_walther June 16, 2005 at 7:51 am

“fairly prosperious by uzbek standards”, you have to love that. just a reminder that uzbek standards are, officially, $6.50 a month… yeah, that works out to 4 cents an hour. and the kicker to that is that a lot of people work six day weeks here.

so you have the word of one journalist, who the police allowed into the city (and allowed to interview people? note that they would have never let him enter the city and meet with the president unless they ALREADY KNEW beforehand what he was going to write, or perhaps they wrote it for him) against the words of dozens of eyewitnesses, dozens of people actually wounded in the attacks (including women and children, who were clearly part of the vast islamic conspiracy)…

i just am having trouble understanding why you are still beating this horse. why not just offer us links to sites that give firsthand government propaganda intstead of taking it secondhand?

Nathan June 16, 2005 at 9:14 am

It’s almost like this stuff is prefab. There’ve been a few people who’ve said pretty much the exact things. All of them were under the government’s wing.

I think it’s important to check this secondhand stuff out because it shows how the Russian press is behaving as a mouthpiece for the Uzbek government.

david_walther June 17, 2005 at 9:29 am

yeah, from that angle it’s interesting to see what they are repeating, and what they are picking up. it opens up interesting questions about how free the press is in russia as well…

Nathan June 17, 2005 at 10:04 am

There’s actually a pretty good article in today’s Eurasia Daily Monitor on these guys.

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