International Community should help themselves by helping Pakistan

by UmairJ on 10/31/2010 · 15 comments

What should the international community do to assist Pakistan?

That’s a mouthful. Really, it is, considering there are a number of significant problems that Pakistan is simultaneously dealing with.

My main premise for even writing on why the international community should assist Pakistan is a rebuttal to a recent article on the AFPak Channel. As an undergraduate Political Science student, it is better to leave such topics to the experts, but after reading said article, I had to interject.

The article discusses the problems that Pakistan’s largest city, Karachi, is facing and though I do agree that the Taliban are undoubtably present in Pakistan (mainly because the ISI allows them to be), they are not why Karachi is burning to the ground. What the author does in this piece is not only add to the American paranoia that Pakistan is slowly being taken over by Islamic extremists, but it also silently promotes the MQM’s xenophobic policies against refugee Pathans. The MQM is not fighting against the ‘Talibanization’ of Karachi and the Taliban are not the biggest problem in Karachi. If you read my last article, you would have noticed that it is the ‘lyari’ gangsters who have been taking part in targeted killings; targeted killings by organized crime lords are a huge problem in Karachi. These drug lords are connected to the political parties running in Karachi, albeit silently, such as the PPP and the MQM which makes it harder for the police to crackdown on them.

The author also states three justifications for international assistance in the country: NATO troops, Afghanistan’s economy and Pakistan’s economy. I disagree simply because the international community’s concern should go beyond the economy and the well being of NATO troops, primarily American troops in the region.

The international community first needs to understand the history of Pakistan’s relations to militia groups and the Taliban if it really wishes to assist the region. Trouble within the region does not start with 9/11 for Pakistan. It began in 1948 to tackle the Indian influence in Jammu and Kashmir. Since 1989, the Islamic Republic has been funding militia groups and terrorist organizations to destabilize Jammu and Kashmir and force India’s hand in pushing for a peace resolution. However, since the invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union, the United States through Pakistan began to funnel money so that militia groups could fight against the Russians.

One such group was, of course, the Taliban and after the defeat of the Soviet Union and once the civil war broke out in Afghanistan, which the United States did not care for whatsoever, Pakistan could not afford to turn the other check. This was of course as a result of the fact that they shared a border with the country and hence decided to keep funding the Taliban to ensure a friendly neighbour to the west. Pakistan did not want to be surrounded by enemies and assisting the Taliban to power, in order to counter India’s influence in the East, was a pragmatic decision.

Hence, the international community must realize that if Pakistan is to become the strategic partner it wants to be, it is necessary that it first makes up its mind on the role that the Taliban and any other militia group will play in the Afghan government before it tries to assist Pakistan or ask it to apply pressure in Waziristan. The United States also needs to realize that the main factor for using militias by Pakistan’s military is the insecurity they feel vis-à-vis India. It believes that instead of facing head on with the country, it can use insurgents to fight small battles. Since the introduction of Nuclear weapons into the equation, Pakistan is more likely to use militias in its proxy war against India than ever before since a full fledge war can have irreversible consequences.

Aside from these two issues, Pakistan’s economy is also taking a batting. This is a domestic issue, however, in which the government must impose an income tax system so all citizens, regardless of social, political or economic status can assist in upholding the system. In the past, Pakistan survived on US funding but this will obviously not continue for long, especially since it must create a source of revenue for the redevelopment of the flooded areas. There are many areas in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa that are cut off from the rest of the world because the government has been unable to fund the building of bridges and roads.  This is just one of many areas affected by the lack of funding by the federal government.

Getting back on topic, essentially what the international community can do for Pakistan is to decide whether the Haqqani group and the Taliban are to be integrated within the new government, or if they are to be considered enemies. If reports coming from NATO are true, and the Taliban (the Haqqani network, not the Quetta shura) are in discussions with the Afghan government, then Pakistan after all is in the right. This means that the ISI should be praised for keeping ties with the Haqqani network in Peshawer and Mullah Omar in Quetta. Pakistan, however, cannot increase the pressure in Waziristan since this is the territory from where the Haqqani network primarily operates from. This creates a paradox for Pakistan who, unlike NATO, are not at war with the group and will not apply pressure on them. Particularly since, after NATO’s withdrawal, Pakistan may have to put up with a Haqqani included government from whom they would have now severed ties.  Pakistan does not want to lose its locus standing with Afghanistan, especially with the growing Indian power to the east. Regardless of the actors within the Afghan government, the United States must ensure that their relations with Pakistan are first and foremost, if they truly want Pakistan to be comfortable with divorcing from ‘Jihadist’.

The United States also seems to be keen on including regional neighbours to assist in the stabilization of Afghanistan. Both Iran and India may play some part, as well as China and Russia. Russia most recently has been in the news since it will assist NATO forces in the region. Karzai has also admitted that Iran has been financially aiding the government for many years, an issue with which the United States has no problem. This is most likely because it is another method to counter Taliban influence. However, Iranian influence in Afghanistan is again countering the Quetta and Peshawar shuras with whome the Afghanistan government is negotiating. This, again, confuses Pakistan as to which stance the United States wishes to take with the Taliban. India’s role in Afghanistan and within the region is Pakistan’s main priority and therefore the United States must realize that the Kashmir question is at the heart of Pakistan’s security concerns via India. If the United States can at least attempt to garner a solution, it will go a long way in the eyes of Pakistanis.

India, of course, will not allow that to happen; it has always regretted international involvement in the Kashmir question. As Christine Fair so eloquently explains, there lies a fundamental difference between India and Pakistan’s approach to the issue. She states:

India seeks to engage Pakistan to legitimize the territorial status quo by finding some means to formalize the LOC as the legal international border. Thus for India, the status quo is a basis for a solution to the ongoing dispute over the disposition of Kashmir.

Where as the absolute opposite works for Pakistan:

Pakistan seeks to engage India to find some means of altering, in various ways, the status quo and publicly rejects the possibility of transforming the LOC into the international border as a viable means of dispute resolution. For Pakistan the status quo is the problem, not the solution to the problem.

(India and Pakistan Engagement: Prospects for Breakthrough or Breakdown?- January 2005)

India wants the status quo to remain; they have no problem with the Kashmir issue being just that, an ‘issue’. As long as they are in control of Kashmir, they have no problems. It is Pakistan that wants borders to change and the status quo to absolve. Yet, because India is stronger, Pakistan’s military cannot go to war with them and India will never voluntarily give up Kashmir.

Consequently, what the United States needs to do, and this is not at all an easy job, is bring the Kashmir issue to the forefront. If they can come to some sort of conclusion concerning Kashmir, Pakistan will have no use for terrorist cells and hence create a more stable Subcontinent. Pakistan will be able to focus more on their economic welfare and the wellbeing of their citizens.

In my opinion, since Pakistan controls the Quetta shura headed by Mullah Omar, if Pakistan feels that negotiations are beneficial, it will allow him to negotiate with the Afghan government. However, the main problem, as mentioned, lies in Kashmir unless the United States puts a concentrated effort into creating a solution for the disputed territory, nothing will change. If this does not happen, Pakistan will not divorce itself from terrorists, especially Lashkar-e-Taiba.

The odds, so far, do not look promising. In a recent report brought out by CNAS, written by Richard Armitage and Richard Fontaine, called Natural Allies: A Blueprint for the Future of US-India Relations, there was no mention of Kashmir whatsoever; though that is where the main problem lies. Kashmir can no longer be an issue only concerning Pakistani-American relations, but must also push over to Indian-American relations.

Until this takes place, Pakistan will continue to rely on militia groups and push the international community away.


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anan November 3, 2010 at 10:50 am

UmairJ, PM Singh’s long term Kashmir policy is to make the border irrelevant. His vision, like that of former PM Vajpayee’s before him, is free trade, free investment, free tourism/business/work/student visas with Pakistan. Ideally having many millions of dual Indian Pakistani citizens who can freely work, visit, and conduct business in both countries. In such an environment, over time not just the Kashmiri line of control, but the entire Pakistani Indian border will gradually become more and more irrelevant.

This is a vision that is very attractive to many Pakistanis as well.

It is the belief of many Indians that such an environment will open up new possibilities and new ideas that will make solving Kashmir much easier.

Specifically on Kashmir, the Indian central government [federal government] provides the state of Kashmir massive annual financial transfers. The elected State and district [county] governments of Kashmir are extremely dependent on these transfers and would suffer a major political backlash from their constituents if these financial transfers were cut off. In addition Kashmiris want to right to attend Indian universities with Indian central government paid scholarships, as well as work in India’s booming tech sector.

These factors have made Indian administered Kashmir much more prosperous than Pakistani administered Kashmir.

If Pakistan wants to help Kashmir [and I believe many Pakistanis do], Pakistan should provide Kashmiris large financial transfers and facilitate education and business development in Kashmir. Pakistan could also send many tens of thousands of social workers to directly help Kashmiris on the ground. Pakistan needs to demonstrate to Kashmiris that Kashmiris are better off joining Pakistan than joining India, or being independent. Pakistan needs to persuade Kashmiris to elect state legislatures and district governments that favor peaceful legal unification with Pakistan.

If Kashmiris ever elected a state government, and local district governments that strongly favored peaceful unification with Pakistan [coupled with free trade, free labor, free investment, dual citizenship, and good relations between India and Pakistan], do you really think that India wouldn’t allow that?

One problem Pakistan confronts is the atrocities Iyas Kashmiri, his brigade 313, Lashkar e Toyba, Jaish e Mohammed, Lashkar e Jhanvi, Al Qaeda, some commanders of Sirajuddin Haqqani have committed against Kashmiris . . . not just ethnic cleansing of Shiites and Sufis, but crimes against Sunnis as well.
Whether rightly or wrongly, many Kashmiris partly blame Pakistan for what has happened. [Remember that Osama Bin Laden’s first large massacre of civilians was in Kashmir in 1988 when he murdered thousands of Shiite Kashmiris, with the connivance of President Zia and then BG Musharraf.]

Isn’t Pakistan much better off stopping all support for violence [which kills a lot of Kashmiri civilians and locally recruited Kashmiri Police], and focus instead on a multi-year strategy to send many billions of dollars in financial grants to elected Kashmiri state and district governments and many tens of thousands of social workers to facilitate Kashmiris helping themselves?

Both Indians and Pakistanis love Kashmiris and believe Kashmiris are better off joining their respective countries. It is much better for Pakistanis and Indians to compete over who can help Kashmiris best, than competing over who loves Kashmiris more.

We should also remember that although violence in Kashmir fell 90% after 9/11, this quiet is somewhat artificial. The Kashmiri resistance is currently engaged in Afghanistan and against the Pakistani security forces. If the Taliban wins, Kashmir is likely to come blazing back. Is there any reason to believe that Mullah Omar, Sirajuddin Haqqani, Iyas Kashmiri, TTP, TNSM, IJU, IMU, Brigade 313, Brigade 95, Brigade 55, Lashkar e Toyba, Lashkar e Jhanvi, the Peshawar Shura, have changed their stance on Kashmir?

Off topic, I suspect that Mullah Omar will try to smoke Chechnya again if the Taliban wins.

As a result, Kashmir and Chechnya, Iran and other international challenges cannot be seriously discussed without also discussing the greater Taliban movement and their international agenda.

There is a significant possibility of a terrorist attack larger than 9/11 hitting Russia, Europe, India, North America or a Shiite population center that emanates from Pakistan. If that happens, the consequences for Pakistan could be extremely severe. For that matter, there is a major chance of a terrorist attack on China that emanates from Pakistan.

This is why Pakistan needs to defeat all extremists, and publicly demand however much assistance Pakistan needs from North America, Europe, China, India, Iran and Russia; for this purpose.

anan November 3, 2010 at 11:03 am

UmairJ, why is Pakistan buying new F-16s?

Why not restrict itself to upgrading Pakistan’s old F-16s, buying Chinese manufactured J10s, and buying Pakistani manufactured JF-17s?

For that matter, why does Pakistan even need to buy many J10s? Why can’t Pakistan survive on its domestically manufactured JF-17 and use the savings on economic development and 3 dimensional COIN operations at home.

Isn’t Pakistan wasting its precious foreign aid from China, America, Japan and Europe on weapons procurement that is orthogonal to fighting the Taliban?

Good points on lyari gangs and organized crime in Pakistan. Aren’t the Taliban heavily involved with organized crime in Pakistan? Doesn’t the lawlessness the Taliban encourages in Pakistan make it easier for other organized crime to function. Don’t the Taliban and organized crime feed on each other? It seems to me that it is essential that Pakistan simultaneously tackle and defeat both organized crime and the Taliban. As each negative actor is weakened, as Pakistan becomes less chaotic, other negative actors become more visible through the noise.

Faisal Nazir November 3, 2010 at 10:33 pm

Pakistanis are unfortunate in the sense that destiny had Hindu India as their neighbor and corrupt criminals as their leaders. The nation, however, is resilient enough for not only surviving crisis after crisis but rather emerging as better nation-state than previously after weathering through most of these challenges. The dispute of J&K proved the single most costly issue for this nascent nation. With India reneged from her promises made at the UN, her refusal to heed the related UN resolutions, and continued illegal occupation of J&K in consistent violations of UN resolutions provided a strong basis of animosity between the two countries. Indian use of terrorism and then naked aggression in erstwhile East Pakistan was reflective of Indian animosity and hatred for the Pakistanis.

India’s claimed vision of soft Kashmir borders has nothing to do with reality. There is no border as such between Pakistan and India in Kashmir region. It is a cease-fire line that was created after the wars between the two countries. The people of J&K are not willing to be a part of India either despite excessive use of brutal and murderous tactics employed by occupying Indian forces. They want to decide their own future as promised to them by India and international community. Pakistan is of course a party in those resolutions. The Indian poly of soft borders is merely a tactic to perpetuate India’s illegal occupation of J&K. Soft borders are only meant for friendly neighbors. India and Pakistan certainly do not fall under that category. Friendship always blossoms from a soil of fairness and trust and India’s past is a testimony for just the opposite. Just as an example, Indians are spending hundreds of billions of dollars for procuring advanced military systems from all over the globe. And yet they feel a pain in their neck by the Pakistani purchase of a few F-16s. Is not it hypocrisy? The whole history of Pak-India relations is replete with such silly Indian actions.

So, where is the hope? First and foremost, Pakistanis need a better leadership. This nation started its journey as a free country with a obsolete jute mill, a textile mill, and an agriculture university. There was absolutely no other industrial or scientific infrastructure in Pakistan in 1947. Despite all odds, Pakistan now has a credible industrial and scientific basis. They are manufacturing fighter planes, tanks, advanced missiles, industrial units, heavy and small engineering goods, world class textile, and abundant cement, steal, and chemicals. They have vast nuclear infrastructure and superior nuke arsenal (numerically and qualitatively) than what Indians have. We are confident that we can achieve peace with equality, fairness, and dignity. Illegal Indian occupation will be forced to cease peacefully or otherwise. We first need a better leadership. We need to get rid of these criminal feudal leaders and bring a capable leadership from the patriotic middle class. Isn’t it ironic that both the President and PM of Pakistan are convicted criminals, having served jail term, who were brought into power by so-called civilized countries (i.e. US and Europeans) through their puppet Musharraf? That can not go forever. It has to change. The nation has started opening its eyes. Pakistani civil society, judiciary, and media are becoming active. Once we consolidate internally, we’ll certainly take care of external exploitations too.

Shah Mojadedi November 4, 2010 at 6:12 am

I think a little Caleb Kavon will bring everyone to their senses

Caleb Kavon 9/22/2010 at 8:52 pm

“Pakistan is in no position to retake Kashmir.

There are more than enough problems to eliminate the
possibility.

A. Recent disasterous flooding which has destroyed 45% of the rural areas, and exposed Pakistan’s long suffering rural poor to
near destitution in their millions.

B. Continued incompetence, and lack of action by Zardari and company are making a military coup more and more likely as the weeks continue.

C. Continued and Increased resistance from the Pakistani Taliban, which has made inroads into Punjab and now controls larger areas of population than before. Designed a Muslim “Land of the Pure,’ Pakistan has no real ideological counter to spreading of the radical islamic insurgency and Shariah law, much of which was in fact supported in the form of the Afghan Taliban for the last 15 years, and bequethed as policy by Zia Ul Haq and his Dictatorship.

D. An economy on life support via a large IMF loan. The major activity in the economy being transit of war material to Afghanistan.

E. Large percentage of under 21 year olds with little or no hope of success or employment.

G. Whole scale destruction of infrastructure during the flood which when combined with the band aid level of international aid makes any recovery remote before the next growing season which may lead to both localized famine and further discord. The flood has set back the country at least 20 years at the very worst time possible.

H. Karachi both the key transit and industrial city in the country has been wracked by over a month of quasi ethnic/political violence resulting in hundreds of killed and wounded. MQM may loose its tie in with the PPP and thus be a further target of violence.

I. A military mind set which on top of using vast resources from the budget considers its involvement in politics as a right and formulates illogical strategic concepts such as “strategic depth” which justifies both coup d’etat and involvement in Afghanistan’s affairs.

These problems in combination surpass any in Afghanistan, and may be more damaging to the future of the World’s 6th most populated country. Pakistan needs more help than Afghanistan if it is maintain any semblance of order in the near term.

The fact that Pakistan’s leadership has time to waste on calls for Kashmir’s secession and the Cricket bribery scandal when confronted with such a wide array of destablilizing problems is almost shocking, but really par for the course when analyzing the last 60 years of history in this country.

It is not a pretty picture at all. Kashmir can truly wait. ”

India too is in the grip of a 6 State Marxist insurgency. Neither of the two is ready for prime time and Pakistan is frankly bankrupt and waiting for the end.

Faisal Nazir November 4, 2010 at 10:19 am

“Pakistan is in no position to retake Kashmir.”
“…and Pakistan is frankly bankrupt and waiting for the end.”

I think time will tell it all. Many similar doomsday predictions about Pakistan by drawing-room thinkers have proved wrong in the past. I do not really want to disturb fools taking a nap in their own paradise. So, let’s move on.

Shah Mojadedi November 4, 2010 at 2:36 pm

What doomsday thinkers are you “dreamers” thinking about…???

The country has only been around since 1947…Now if you are talking about the history of the INDIAN subcontinent that is another issue.. Pakistan has no real history of its own, and what history it has is corrupted by military coup after military coup and the loss of Bangladesh after a bloody rape filled attack on fellow Muslims. Pretty embarassing history on the whole.

This “patriotic Middle Class” is another fantasy.

But, dreaming about things without analyzing the problems as if Pakistan is a functioning country not dependant on the IMF and everyone else is foolish. Pakistan is no Paradise now nor ever has been so maybe you need to wake up Faisal Nazir. Pakistan is a real mess and trying to ignore it is useless..

Faisal Nazir November 4, 2010 at 10:55 pm

Remember, innocence is different from ignorance. You need to read Pakistan’s history before claiming of doing an analysis (much less than an objective analysis). I would like to given you just a few examples of how the enemies from near and far attempted to undo Pakistan right after her creation. But this nation survived. First, Hindus really believed in 1947 that Pakistan wouldn’t take long before collapsing and begging for rejoining mother India. More than that Indians tried really hard to suffocate, bleed, and destroy whenever possible during the last sixty or so years. It is only a few years ago that one of their ministers (I think, Mukarji, then their foreign minister) told Indians that the goal of undoing Pakistan was no more achievable. The whole History of India, as a free Hindu country, is a testimony on Indian hate, revenge, and animosity towards Pakistan. Soviets came into Afghanistan with a big plan to dismember Pakistan on their march towards warm waters of Arabian Sea. They kept hitting their head with Afghan rocks until the they had to retreat in humiliation and the USSR finally got dismembered. Your new masters, the Westerners, invaded and occupied Afghanistan with similar big plans against Pakistan. The tide is slowing turning to the opposite.

Indians have been claiming a doomsday for Pakistan since 1947. Russians had a strategic plan to bring a doomsday for Pakistan. And now silly fake thinkers like you are predicting similar non-sense for Pakistan. Indians proved consistently wrong. Soviets lost themselves. I don’t know what fate is waiting for you and your masters. But one thing is very clear to me. And that is, Pakistanis will keep their march to be a truly free nation-state. Yes, picture is very blurry and saddening at present. We suffered a lot and we lost even more. But the tiger cub is now entering in its youthful age. I am sure the time will, InshaAllah, tell it all.

Toryalay Shirzay November 4, 2010 at 9:19 pm

What we see here is a couple of Paki arab dogs(Umair J and Faisal Nazir) asking for more biscuits from dog loving Westerners.With a lot of maneuvering,scheming,and frequent wagging of their tails,Paki dogs have actually succeeded in grabbing more western biscuits and using their Haqqani and one-eyed Taliban brethren ,they have began the achievement of their long held wishes of having the US/NATO forces on the run.It is enough to make one want to congratulate the ISI and their dogs.
Chatalstan,aka pakistan, is the creation of islamic thugs whose savagery helped to cut up motherland Hindustan and create this terrorist state whose survival is based on continuous instigation and initiation of terrorism and violence both within and outside of pakistan,see the complete text of the communications between paki terrorists in Mumbai and their handlers in pakistan.
And you Paki dogs,get this through your head: Kashmir has been part of Hindustan for eons and it will remain so not withstanding the savagery of your bloody fangs!!You have fooled the Westerners for too long including giving a helping hand to those terrorists who rained death and destruction on New York and Washington,you will ran out of your tricks and luck sooner or later and remember,you can fool some people some of the time,but not all people all the time.

Faisal Nazir November 4, 2010 at 10:04 pm

Toryalay Shirzay,
It is absolutly useless to have any constructive discussion with likes of you. Abuse is no argument and silly expression is not a discussion. Your post is true reflection on your nature and personality. It’s better for you to cool down and do some thing constructive rather than spreading filth on the net.

anan November 5, 2010 at 10:03 pm

Brother Toryalay Shirzay,

You know how deeply many of us including me respect your insights and understanding. After all you are a son of the soil. An Afghan I believe? Probably a former supporter of Najibullah, who I would agree wasn’t all that bad.

I would ask you to express yourself positively and politely. Doing otherwise serves no purpose to my knowledge. If I am wrong, please correct me.

“Paki arab dogs” . . . a few things. Pakistanis are not Arabs and would be horrified at being associated with Arabs. They are South Asians, Central Asians and Aryans and most Pakistanis are very proud of their history and culture.

Many Pakistanis are very confused and irrational, no doubt. But why call them “dogs”?

Faisal is over emotional. No doubt. Much of what he says is over the top. But why incite him? For what?

Umair J is a friend of this blog and Joshua [I think.] He is one of the authors of this blog. If they trust and respect him, so should we.

There are many enlightened Pakistanis. Umair J seems to be one of them. Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?

“Kashmir has been part of Hindustan for eons and it will remain so not withstanding the savagery of your bloody fangs!!”

True. Also irrelevant. For many thousands of years Afghanistan and Pakistan and the southern portions of Uzbekistan were parts of Hindustan as you put it. What was is not necessarily how things should be in the future. The only constant in this universe is rapid change. Usually this rapid change is a good thing. We should welcome it. Civilizations and cultures rise and fall. This is the way of things.

What the status of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir today should be decided by them through free democracy.

This said, I agree with you that the extremists, some of whom are senior members of the Pakistani establishment have to stop supporting all violence, no matter who in the world it is directed against. Militants backed by portions of the Pakistani establishment have attacked or tried to attack many countries around the world including Thailand, Malaysia, North Africa, Kenya, Tanzania, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Indonesia, Malaysia, Europe, America, Latin America . . . the list goes on and on. This is true. The question is what to do about it. In my view only a strong, successful, free democratic self confident Pakistan can defeat the extremists. We all need to do what we can to facilitate this, to facilitate Pakistanis transforming themselves.

“You have fooled the Westerners for too long including giving a helping hand to those terrorists who rained death and destruction on New York and Washington,you will ran out of your tricks and luck sooner or later and remember,you can fool some people some of the time,but not all people all the time.”

Not all Pakistanis have done this. Some have. The world needs to help Pakistanis take back their country from the extremists and crazies.

UmairJ , many of us have read and commented on your article. Care to share your thoughts and perspectives on our comments?

Would love your perspectives on other ideas as well.

clarisse November 5, 2010 at 6:15 am

Pakistan is almost clinically dead.
Pakistan is a deceptive-shadow-theater-state, with all actors playing their Potemkin-roles –and who knows the few who are really writing the story behind?

1. Floods.
“Harmony in diversity” was the Pakistan Pavilion theme in Shanghai 2010 Expo. Just think of it. Harmony. In Diversity. In the 2010 Pakistan.

If Pakistan authorities, institutions and elites really wanted to help their country -flooded by waters, blood and obsessional hates-, what a better tool than the Pakistan pavilion ?

Regarding the flooding, the pavilion theme is like an official and heartless denial.
An efficient strategic communication would have been to broadcast photos and videos of the disaster in the pavilion to launch a huge international media campaign to raise funds.

2. History.
There are no conspiracies.
How can Pakistan build its future -and that means now- without watching/analysing/understanding itself?
“Without writing, without a literature, the past constantly ate itself up.”

3. Fiction.
Read somewhere online this comment last year:
“Pakistan will take the money and the weapons; catch some terrorists; temporarily break contacts with the big sharks; deny any ivolvement in double-dealings and if caught in nefarious acts pretend to be surprised. The Pak army has perfected this art over last three decades and in the event of being cornered from all sides it will call upon its kryptonite – Kashmir.”

Welcome back to the shadow-theater.
But just remember that kryptonite is fiction.

Faisal Nazir November 5, 2010 at 10:43 am

Any thing new in your crap? No. Can you pinheads bring any thing new at all? I very much doubt. You think spreading crap turns fiction into reality, haan… No wonder these silly bigots are so blindly and vigorously seeking fall of Pakistan. Blind dogs are trying hunting deer. Silly, indeed.
We know Pakistan faces huge challenges. But the nation is not sitting and watching passively its losses. Nations go through difficult times. That’s how they emerge stronger. We’ll, InshaAllah, cause these pinhead doomsday predictors byte the dust.

clarisse November 5, 2010 at 12:09 pm

You’re right, some people are not “sitting and watching passively” and really do their best to help or share reflexions and actions.

You say “Nations go through difficult times. That’s how they emerge stronger.”
Well, who is the nation, in Pakistan ?

Don Anderson November 5, 2010 at 12:20 pm

“We know Pakistan faces huge challenges. But the nation is not sitting and watching passively its losses. Nations go through difficult times. That’s how they emerge stronger. We’ll, InshaAllah, cause these pinhead doomsday predictors byte the dust.”

Faisal-if you cannot realize that Pakistan is in a serious situation you are lost in space. This brave face toward the Tsunami is pretty funny if you ask me. Your responses are worse.

“Not sitting and watching passively” ??

What are you doing? Asking for more aid from the same people you call “new Masters” in Afghanistan? Or is it begging for aid Faisal? If you are so proud, just don’t take it, or don’t call everyone who asks pin heads. Who is the real pin head here?

Because people bring up problems does not make them wrong or dooms day predictors Faisal. Get yourself together, and remember Pakistan is asking for aid not everyone else. India BUYS from the US not BEGS for AID. Big difference.

Your paranoia is just paranoia. What is disturbing Faisal is you do not seem to see the real problems in your country. This is not Islamabad where the ISI can arrest you for speaking the truth. It is not everyone against “poor Pakistan” it is the fact that Pakistan is poorly governed, poorly led, and BANKRUPT on life support from the IMF. Not much to brag about here is there?

Empty stuff like “the Nation is not sitting passively” is empty and not true. You are not sitting passively- you stand with your hand outstretched for Aid and then insult the giver. Pretty weak hand to play-don’t you agree?

I also noticed you ignored completely the true claims of Pakistani atrocities against Muslim Bengalis. Not much to stand on or be proud of, No? Supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan at the same time they come after you does not work either, does it? Zia Ul Haq Musharraf…Great Leaders no?

Sad History of bad decisions, bad leadership, and mistake after mistake. Pakistani History.

A lot of folks are very concerned about this and about Pakistan now.

Denying reality is the biggest problem that you and Pakistan have together

I hope you can somehow see the situation before the Mullahs take over and you have nowhere else to go but to the land of the “masters”. I doubt you will make the TTP very happy with your western pin head vocabulary etc etc…Good Luck You are going to need it Faisal.

JV November 6, 2010 at 4:49 pm

What should the International Community do? Anything they want to.

What should the United States do? Nothing. Let Pakistan and India and the EU sort it out themselves. Have fun guys!

Better yet let China deal with it for a change. It is in their own back yard, after all. Besides they love India so much and India loves them right back, you know!

Time for the US to make decisions about how much money it can make from which relationship and do that. Dump all the other nonsense about peace and human rights and morals — that and $2.00 will buy you a cup of coffee. Hey – we could handle it like China does with their foreign relations – WIIFM. What’s in it for me? (In the case of Pakistan – why, not even enough for a cup of coffee . . . .)

Game over – the US is broke and tired of taking care of all the whiners and crooks and liars all over the world. Germany has 3% growth rate and 5% unemployment – let them do it. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, the bank is closed.

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