After last year’s bombings in Uzbekistan and more recent ones in Kazakhstan and Tajikistan, the role of Hizb ut-Tahrir inevitably drifts into the conversation. Some reporters misreported that Uzbek authorities directly pointed the finger at the group after the July attacks. A couple news outlets got the translation correct though and reported that the concern directed at HuT had to do with it being a radicalizing ground–a gateway drug to terrorism if you will.
I’ve mentioned on a few occasions that given the decentralized nature of the group, it is also entirely possible that cells that likely have nothing to do with the home office in London may have decided that it makes sense for them to drop the whole non-violent struggle thing. That, of course, doesn’t make all of its members terrorists, but it should give reason for pause.
So, when I see stories like this, I can’t help but think that the whole “well, they’re non-violent, so we can’t do anything about them” thinking is glaringly naive.
After Hizb ut-Tahrir’s appearance in Auburn, Iraqi exiles described protesters as fundamentalists sympathetic to al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, saying they had held up the same black flag with white lettering that has appeared in the videos that precede beheadings of hostages in Iraq.
“So it’s very scary to people,” said Thair Wali, an Iraqi adviser for the International Organisation for Migration.
Indeed, the day after the demonstration, four people were injured in shootings in Auburn, which followed a brawl in the main street.
Mr Doureihi denied his organisation had any role in the violence. Police investigating the shootings agreed. “We aren’t looking at organisations and groups – we’re looking at a small number of individuals,” said Superintendent Alan Harding.
But Mr Doureihi, 27, a sometime accountant, made no secret of Hizb ut-Tahrir’s ultimate ambitions. Founded in the Middle East in 1953, the organisation seeks to unite the Muslim world in a single Islamic state administered in accordance with shariah law.
Speaking to The Australian from his flat in the western suburb of Liverpool, which seems to double as Hizb ut-Tahrir’s Sydney base, Mr Doureihi said the media had tried to spread fear about the group.
“They keep writing that we’re al-Zarqawi supporters,” he said. But he would not say if the group supported al-Zarqawi and refused to repudiate him.
“This occupation needs to be reversed – if we want to change the situation, let’s remove the original injustice,” he said.
Mr Doureihi denied that the 20 to 25 members of Hizb-ut Tahrir demonstrating in Auburn had threatened exiles voting in the election, despite saying “vote and you die” during polling in what some construed as an attempt to create a rift between Australia’s Shiite and Sunni Muslims.
“We’re calling for the unity of all Muslims,” he said.
Maybe someone can clear up the flag thing. Here’s HuT’s and Zarqawi’s is here. I would assume that those commenting in the story would know the difference, but to my untrained, non-Arabic reading eyes, the writing on the HuT flag appears to be the same as what’s on Zarqawi’s.
I would hope that, given the refusal to repudiate terrorism and the willingness to intimidate and threaten the lives of voters, reporters might get wise to Hizb ut-Tahrir’s commitment to nonviolence isn’t as strong as they’d like them to believe. Asking questions, like the reporter for this story, rather than recycling press releases and talking points, is a good place to start.
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it looks like both are the shahada, though stylized in a similar manner. still, the shahada alone is hardly a sign of rampant radicalism, just a statement of faith.
or at least that’s my take.
i was going to say exactly what jb said. and zarqawi’s flag has a second line that HT’s does not have.
in any event, i wonder why you assume that HT in iraq has any relation to HT in uzbekistan. it just means “liberation party”–a common name for a political group in the developed world in any language. i view it like hezbollah (“party of god”)–there are parties with that name all over the middle east. but the one in turkey, for example, has nothing to do with the more famous party in lebanon (the lebanese one is shia’ for example, whereas almost all turks are sunni)
It’s HT in Australia, actually. As far as I know, HT no longer has much of a following in the Arab world itself.
That aside, it is all the same HT though. The UK office speaks up on behalf of the far-flung cells–typically the Central Asian ones–fairly regularly. They have the same pamphlets and message. Their goals are identical. That’s not to say the UK folks have much control over the Central Asian ones though. In fact, I would be happier if they did. I still wouldn’t like them, but I would at least have a little more faith that ideological discipline was enforced and keeping them nonviolent.
HUT is a global organization , political party , non violent , and will establish the caliphate soon , and trying to accuse HUT in using violence , is an old trick used by the governments and their puppet writers such as your self ,and every muslim knows the flag of the prophet muhammad called (alokab ) i guess except your iraqi london source , which i doubt that he exists .
the caliphate is the new world order that will put an end to the western culture which made the world suffer and live in sorrow , and replace it with justice to the peoples of the world .
Nathan,
Can you use your puppet-writer connection to the government to get your little brother a job? Just a thought.
Dad
Hizb ut tahrir is the hope of the ummah of islam for the next millenium inshallh ..
We are growing despite the
hatred of kuffar
despite the ingonrance of some brothers about our dwah
despite the passivism of the cowards
and with hepl of allh we will
PREVAIL
and yes ,, we are one Hizb .. be it in Jordan ,, Uzbekistan
Rusaia or Bosnia ,,
we are Hizb ut tahrir by name .. and
hizb u allah by fact ,, at we least we aspire ot be ,, and inshallah and by the grace of allah we are ,.
the flag is simply the flag of the prophet. nothing sinister can be ascribed to it per se. an analogy would be the union jack used by far right parties whilst still being the national flag of the UK; the latter does not accept the views of the former (although i’m sure you could find many arguments to say history shows the contrary
)
From my experience i know HT to be non violent. They rely on discourse, debate and the challenging of ideas; and that is exactly how it should be when one seeks to convince another.
we need to remember not all are open to discussion and change. it is a cliche but thoughts are more powerful than bullets. i think stalin said why should he allow his enemies to have thoughts when he would not let them have bullets.
i agree with the aim of unifying the muslim world and rule by islam but that is not an excuse for/ justification of oppression. islamic history is full of examples of what true islamic governance is…..and it is nothing like karimov’s!
those posters who are interested should read around the subject, maybe even check out HT’s www, rather than fall into traps made by knaves who have twisted the truth.
a word of advice to my muslim brothers who post…take a chill pill! remeber the duty upon you to conduct yourself and convey the message in the best way. this requires explanation not rhetoric.
P.s.
yes i no myy spolling is vary bod!
I was wondering what the opinion is out there regarding HT being banned in the UK?
I agree that we should think twice whether HT will stick to its mandate of non-violence but I am not sure that banning it is the best option. Number 1, it is illegal to do and they would have to expand the definition of terrorist org by A LOT to do this. 2. I don’t think this is really going to change much or address the root of the problem which is gross inequality. Its a difficult one as HT is anti-semetic ( and doesnt delinate between those of us Jewish americans who don’t support Amer gov or Israeli policy) anti-western and just lumps all of us togehter as baddies! (incitement?) ok-will stop rambling. The jist is: while I don’t think the HT are nice people, not so sure they shouldn’t be allowed to exist in the public arena. This way, they will be anturally combatted by other ideologies.
PS: Nathan, were you a PCV?
Why are you commenting on the matter, when you can’t even tell that the writing common to the two flags simply says, “There is no god except Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah”?
Do you speak Uzbek and Russian? If not, then I suppose you are not qualified to comment here.