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		<title>By: Global Voices Online  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Wednesday World Blog Roundup</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2005/05/11/reaction-to-bush-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-44087</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Wednesday World Blog Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] resting links and analysis on why Georgia is interesting to President Bush.  	Registan.net points out that the Russia wasn&#8217;t the only great power to be spooked by Bush&#8217;s visit t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] resting links and analysis on why Georgia is interesting to President Bush.  	Registan.net points out that the Russia wasn&#8217;t the only great power to be spooked by Bush&#8217;s visit t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online&#187;Blog Archive
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		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2005/05/11/reaction-to-bush-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-18558</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online&#187;Blog Archive
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] resting links and analysis on why Georgia is interesting to President Bush.  	Registan.net points out that the Russia wasn&#8217;t the only great power to be spooked by Bush&#8217;s visit t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] resting links and analysis on why Georgia is interesting to President Bush.  	Registan.net points out that the Russia wasn&#8217;t the only great power to be spooked by Bush&#8217;s visit t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Russo</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2005/05/11/reaction-to-bush-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-18537</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Russo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 17:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blame opposition weakness squarely on the US.  As I&#039;ve blogged previously, that responsibility rests primarily on the arrogant shoulders of Armenian opposition leaders.  But we do have to take responsibility for putting democracy on the back burner in Armenia, and the consequences that flow.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t blame opposition weakness squarely on the US.  As I&#8217;ve blogged previously, that responsibility rests primarily on the arrogant shoulders of Armenian opposition leaders.  But we do have to take responsibility for putting democracy on the back burner in Armenia, and the consequences that flow.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see where you&#039;re coming from, but like I said, I don&#039;t think that democracy is being sacrificed. I do agree though that the situation is somewhat analagous to Belarus. We don&#039;t have a significant relationship, so there&#039;s not a whole lot of harm in being disagreeable.

I&#039;m far from an expert on Armenia, but I have to have my doubts that the weakness of the opposition can so squarely be blamed on the US. I also have reservations about the US doing anything more than providing support to home-grown movements that are able to build their own network of support.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see where you&#8217;re coming from, but like I said, I don&#8217;t think that democracy is being sacrificed. I do agree though that the situation is somewhat analagous to Belarus. We don&#8217;t have a significant relationship, so there&#8217;s not a whole lot of harm in being disagreeable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m far from an expert on Armenia, but I have to have my doubts that the weakness of the opposition can so squarely be blamed on the US. I also have reservations about the US doing anything more than providing support to home-grown movements that are able to build their own network of support.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Russo</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2005/05/11/reaction-to-bush-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-18533</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Russo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 17:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about the path we take being slow or fast.  It&#039;s about the honesty in American foreign policy.

I could understand a soft touch if Armenia had any strategic importance whatsoever.  It has none.  No oil.  No pipeline.  No threats.  No economy.  Nothing.  It is the perfect place in which to be completely honest about democracy.  

But because of the Armenian lobby, American policy has simply looked the other way almost as a matter of habit.  Congress just rolls over and plays dead for the sake of a few thousand in PAC contributions from wealthy Armenians.  It&#039;s utterly shameful.  

The executive branch follows suit.  For the American ambassador - the American ambassador! - to say that Armenia is &#039;headed in the right direction&#039; is patently absurd on its face.  How do you think Armenians feel when the US trots out this kind of nonsense?

The relative weakness of the opposition there is a direct result of American timidity on democracy.  If the Americans won&#039;t stand with us, who will?  This dynamic has been in place for years.  One of the consequences is that opposition parties simply die off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about the path we take being slow or fast.  It&#8217;s about the honesty in American foreign policy.</p>
<p>I could understand a soft touch if Armenia had any strategic importance whatsoever.  It has none.  No oil.  No pipeline.  No threats.  No economy.  Nothing.  It is the perfect place in which to be completely honest about democracy.  </p>
<p>But because of the Armenian lobby, American policy has simply looked the other way almost as a matter of habit.  Congress just rolls over and plays dead for the sake of a few thousand in PAC contributions from wealthy Armenians.  It&#8217;s utterly shameful.  </p>
<p>The executive branch follows suit.  For the American ambassador &#8211; the American ambassador! &#8211; to say that Armenia is &#8216;headed in the right direction&#8217; is patently absurd on its face.  How do you think Armenians feel when the US trots out this kind of nonsense?</p>
<p>The relative weakness of the opposition there is a direct result of American timidity on democracy.  If the Americans won&#8217;t stand with us, who will?  This dynamic has been in place for years.  One of the consequences is that opposition parties simply die off.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s anything that proves I&#039;m not the frothing neo-con that I&#039;m sometimes accused of being, it&#039;s my position on this. I am an unabashed proponent of democratization, but that&#039;s no reason to not appraise the battle before rushing in. There are plenty of competing interests and considerations, not the least of which is that there&#039;s no credible reason to lay our cards down when there&#039;s yet to materialize opposition groups that enjoy broad-based appeal. If they show up and appear to be genuinely democratic, I&#039;d wager they&#039;ll enjoy US support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s anything that proves I&#8217;m not the frothing neo-con that I&#8217;m sometimes accused of being, it&#8217;s my position on this. I am an unabashed proponent of democratization, but that&#8217;s no reason to not appraise the battle before rushing in. There are plenty of competing interests and considerations, not the least of which is that there&#8217;s no credible reason to lay our cards down when there&#8217;s yet to materialize opposition groups that enjoy broad-based appeal. If they show up and appear to be genuinely democratic, I&#8217;d wager they&#8217;ll enjoy US support.</p>
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		<title>By: praktike</title>
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		<dc:creator>praktike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 16:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, isn&#039;t the Bush administration likely to be worried about the azeri nutcases who started all that trouble with armenia coming back to power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, isn&#8217;t the Bush administration likely to be worried about the azeri nutcases who started all that trouble with armenia coming back to power?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2005/05/11/reaction-to-bush-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-18530</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 16:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what are we going to do? If there&#039;s not a domestic opposition of significant strength, should we make a big flap and get our asses booted out of the country?

I&#039;m all for taking a slower path if that&#039;s all that&#039;s available to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what are we going to do? If there&#8217;s not a domestic opposition of significant strength, should we make a big flap and get our asses booted out of the country?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for taking a slower path if that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s available to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Russo</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2005/05/11/reaction-to-bush-in-georgia/comment-page-1/#comment-18529</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Russo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 16:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for linking, Nathan.  

But I disagree, I think US policy on Armenia, and conversely Azerbaijan, has been sacrificing democracy for &#039;stability&#039; for a very long time.  Armenian and Azeri lobbying in Congress has guaranteed that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for linking, Nathan.  </p>
<p>But I disagree, I think US policy on Armenia, and conversely Azerbaijan, has been sacrificing democracy for &#8216;stability&#8217; for a very long time.  Armenian and Azeri lobbying in Congress has guaranteed that.</p>
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