Comments on: Kazakhstan Gives CIS Monitors the Boot http://registan.net/index.php/2005/11/21/kazakhstan-gives-cis-monitors-the-boot/ Central Asia News -- All Central Asia, All The Time Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:53:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: KZblog :: Election Update :: November :: 2005 http://registan.net/index.php/2005/11/21/kazakhstan-gives-cis-monitors-the-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-93900 KZblog :: Election Update :: November :: 2005 Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:54:40 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=6084#comment-93900 [...] Registan.net has a link to an interim report on the elections as well. [...] [...] Registan.net has a link to an interim report on the elections as well. [...]

]]> By: KZBlog http://registan.net/index.php/2005/11/21/kazakhstan-gives-cis-monitors-the-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-93899 KZBlog Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:51:50 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=6084#comment-93899 As far as I get from the news, they haven't had their credentials pulled but they are looked at unfavorably. And they don't get to monitor this on. the indicated list of observers is <a href="http://kazelection2005.org/observers.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> As far as I get from the news, they haven’t had their credentials pulled but they are looked at unfavorably. And they don’t get to monitor this on. the indicated list of observers is here

]]> By: Nathan http://registan.net/index.php/2005/11/21/kazakhstan-gives-cis-monitors-the-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-93719 Nathan Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:02:27 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=6084#comment-93719 I trust RFE/RL not to make the mistake. I can't find anything on ENEMO getting their Kazakhstan credentials pulled (but it's late and I'm not looking incredibly hard). I trust RFE/RL not to make the mistake. I can’t find anything on ENEMO getting their Kazakhstan credentials pulled (but it’s late and I’m not looking incredibly hard).

]]> By: qadinbakida http://registan.net/index.php/2005/11/21/kazakhstan-gives-cis-monitors-the-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-93713 qadinbakida Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:21:10 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=6084#comment-93713 would be very coindicental if it's not the same. ENEMO just got their credentials pulled over the weekend. would be very coindicental if it’s not the same. ENEMO just got their credentials pulled over the weekend.

]]> By: Nathan http://registan.net/index.php/2005/11/21/kazakhstan-gives-cis-monitors-the-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-93707 Nathan Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:56:05 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=6084#comment-93707 Great, but ENEMO isn't who RFE/RL is talking about. Anytime an election monitoring organization that gives the Russian version of events shows up, it gets a little confusing. Perhaps <a href="http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/04/e791916d-4690-4835-9f2d-d230541270e6.html" rel="nofollow">this clears things up a bit.</a> <blockquote>In December 2003, a group calling itself the CIS Elections Monitoring Organization (CIS-EMO) was registered in Nizhnii Novgorod, Russia, as a nongovernmental organization; a spokesman for the group said it has no ties to the official CIS monitors. The reasons for the founding of this group are unclear. One possible explanation is that after so many discrepancies between CIS monitors' conclusions and those arrived at by OSCE election observers, a "neutral" NGO was needed to lend legitimacy to the official CIS reports and to thereby reinforce Russian policy goals. A certain amount of confusion resulted from the fact that this NGO had a very similar name to the official CIS monitors, and that its reports were almost carbon copies of those filed by the official CIS monitors. The CIS-EMO played a minor role as an observer in the Ukrainian elections in 2004. CIS-EMO leader Aleksei Kochetkov complained that he had been beaten by people wearing orange armbands, a complaint that was dismissed as a ploy by many people. In the February Moldovan parliamentary elections, a trainload of CIS-EMO observers were not allowed into the country -- being turned back at the Ukrainian-Moldovan border. Earlier, Moldova had also rejected the presence of official CIS monitors.</blockquote> If they're the same, I'd expect Moldova to be mentioned on the <a href="http://www.enemo.org.ua/" rel="nofollow">ENEMO website</a>. Great, but ENEMO isn’t who RFE/RL is talking about. Anytime an election monitoring organization that gives the Russian version of events shows up, it gets a little confusing. Perhaps this clears things up a bit.

In December 2003, a group calling itself the CIS Elections Monitoring Organization (CIS-EMO) was registered in Nizhnii Novgorod, Russia, as a nongovernmental organization; a spokesman for the group said it has no ties to the official CIS monitors.

The reasons for the founding of this group are unclear. One possible explanation is that after so many discrepancies between CIS monitors’ conclusions and those arrived at by OSCE election observers, a “neutral” NGO was needed to lend legitimacy to the official CIS reports and to thereby reinforce Russian policy goals.

A certain amount of confusion resulted from the fact that this NGO had a very similar name to the official CIS monitors, and that its reports were almost carbon copies of those filed by the official CIS monitors.

The CIS-EMO played a minor role as an observer in the Ukrainian elections in 2004. CIS-EMO leader Aleksei Kochetkov complained that he had been beaten by people wearing orange armbands, a complaint that was dismissed as a ploy by many people.

In the February Moldovan parliamentary elections, a trainload of CIS-EMO observers were not allowed into the country — being turned back at the Ukrainian-Moldovan border. Earlier, Moldova had also rejected the presence of official CIS monitors.

If they’re the same, I’d expect Moldova to be mentioned on the ENEMO website.

]]> By: qadinbakida http://registan.net/index.php/2005/11/21/kazakhstan-gives-cis-monitors-the-boot/comment-page-1/#comment-93700 qadinbakida Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:46:27 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=6084#comment-93700 ENEMO is not in anyway afilliated with Russia, though it certainly has Russian monitors in its delegations. It is a coalition of democratic election monitoring NGOs from Central and Eastern Europe, Central Asia and the caucasus. Its monitors -- who are more knowledgeable about about the ways NIS elections get stolen that westerners and usually speak the local language -- played a critical role in all three Ukraine elections and were active in Kyrygzstan's election as well. They are not analogous to the CIS "monitors" who came to AZ to monitor and reaffirm official results. IT receieves a lot of US funded and should absolutely not be put in the "phony" category. That's why it got its accrediatation pulled. ENEMO is not in anyway afilliated with Russia, though it certainly has Russian monitors in its delegations. It is a coalition of democratic election monitoring NGOs from Central and Eastern Europe, Central Asia and the caucasus. Its monitors — who are more knowledgeable about about the ways NIS elections get stolen that westerners and usually speak the local language — played a critical role in all three Ukraine elections and were active in Kyrygzstan’s election as well. They are not analogous to the CIS “monitors” who came to AZ to monitor and reaffirm official results. IT receieves a lot of US funded and should absolutely not be put in the “phony” category. That’s why it got its accrediatation pulled.

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