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	<title>Comments on: Uzbekistan&#8217;s Outdated Agriculture</title>
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		<title>By: Craig Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about it - they very seldom practice crop rotation, and have planted cotton in the same fields for decades.  The cotton pests are only kept at bay by really massive pesticide application, especially fungicides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about it &#8211; they very seldom practice crop rotation, and have planted cotton in the same fields for decades.  The cotton pests are only kept at bay by really massive pesticide application, especially fungicides.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2007/11/02/uzbekistans-outdated-agriculture/comment-page-1/#comment-375803</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure &quot;the more-cowbell Soviet mentality&quot; has just entered my lexicon as a favored phrase :-) That is a &lt;i&gt;perfect&lt;/i&gt; description.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure &#8220;the more-cowbell Soviet mentality&#8221; has just entered my lexicon as a favored phrase <img src='http://registan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  That is a <i>perfect</i> description.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t arguing; you&#039;re completely right, especially tying it to water and the Aral Sea issue. I was just surprised, as chemicals aren&#039;t usually mentioned so highly as a stand-alone problem for Central Asian agriculture. I guess because the full impact is so complex and relates to non-ag sectors.

I think you&#039;re right, farmers have bigger and more immediate issues to face - and the more-cowbell Soviet mentality would make leaders loathe to admit you can have or apply too much technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t arguing; you&#8217;re completely right, especially tying it to water and the Aral Sea issue. I was just surprised, as chemicals aren&#8217;t usually mentioned so highly as a stand-alone problem for Central Asian agriculture. I guess because the full impact is so complex and relates to non-ag sectors.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right, farmers have bigger and more immediate issues to face &#8211; and the more-cowbell Soviet mentality would make leaders loathe to admit you can have or apply too much technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The farmers have different concerns that an overall ecological/efficiency look would indicate (i.e. theirs are far more immediate). From my understanding, and I don&#039;t have time to dig up links and references at the moment, there is actually an overuse of pesticides in the area, which, given the poor water usage means a lot of it leaches into the ground and creates problems there. Similarly, rampant pesticide use has contributed greatly to the clouds of toxic dust that swirl around the dead former seabed regions of the Aral Sea.

But I am not an agriculture expert; I am relying on second and third hand reports and analysis, so I can&#039;t claim to be exhaustive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The farmers have different concerns that an overall ecological/efficiency look would indicate (i.e. theirs are far more immediate). From my understanding, and I don&#8217;t have time to dig up links and references at the moment, there is actually an overuse of pesticides in the area, which, given the poor water usage means a lot of it leaches into the ground and creates problems there. Similarly, rampant pesticide use has contributed greatly to the clouds of toxic dust that swirl around the dead former seabed regions of the Aral Sea.</p>
<p>But I am not an agriculture expert; I am relying on second and third hand reports and analysis, so I can&#8217;t claim to be exhaustive.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that you cite pesticide use as one of the major factors keeping the cotton industry below where it could be. Do you have any sources or links with more on that?

The farmers I knew in Uzbekistan seemed more up in arms about water systems, land tenure, price controls, fertilizer access. I don&#039;t recall if pesticides ever came up. If they did, though, it would be a story about some qishloq where good pesticides weren&#039;t available and how awful that was. It didn&#039;t seem like there was any interest in or awareness of systems like integrated pest management.

I&#039;m not saying rampant/inefficient pesticide application isn&#039;t a problem, but I would guess that telling an Uzbek farmer that pesticides are keeping the industry down would be a tough sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you cite pesticide use as one of the major factors keeping the cotton industry below where it could be. Do you have any sources or links with more on that?</p>
<p>The farmers I knew in Uzbekistan seemed more up in arms about water systems, land tenure, price controls, fertilizer access. I don&#8217;t recall if pesticides ever came up. If they did, though, it would be a story about some qishloq where good pesticides weren&#8217;t available and how awful that was. It didn&#8217;t seem like there was any interest in or awareness of systems like integrated pest management.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying rampant/inefficient pesticide application isn&#8217;t a problem, but I would guess that telling an Uzbek farmer that pesticides are keeping the industry down would be a tough sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, that&#039;s called sarcasm. The embassy claimed it was essentially jealousy that compels people to decry Uzbekistan&#039;s cotton. I was mocking that claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, that&#8217;s called sarcasm. The embassy claimed it was essentially jealousy that compels people to decry Uzbekistan&#8217;s cotton. I was mocking that claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodsjournal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodsjournal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human rights groups &quot;dislike&quot; Uzbekistan&#039;s cotton industry from &quot;jealousy&quot;? 

Care to elaborate on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human rights groups &#8220;dislike&#8221; Uzbekistan&#8217;s cotton industry from &#8220;jealousy&#8221;? </p>
<p>Care to elaborate on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, this Uzbek diplomats&#039; statement was in response to
a BBC TV report. You can watch it online &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7060000/newsid_7069300?redirect=7069310.stm&amp;news=1&amp;nbram=1&amp;bbram=1&amp;bbwm=1&amp;nbwm=1&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

There is a Utube video showing same things and available at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n39T35Ia_4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, this Uzbek diplomats&#8217; statement was in response to<br />
a BBC TV report. You can watch it online <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7060000/newsid_7069300?redirect=7069310.stm&#038;news=1&#038;nbram=1&#038;bbram=1&#038;bbwm=1&#038;nbwm=1">here</a></p>
<p>There is a Utube video showing same things and available at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n39T35Ia_4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n39T35Ia_4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it will probably continue after him as well until a truly major crisis develops. Even if those controlling the state were not corrupt, there is so much reliance on cotton funds, that it would be very hard to give farmers the land and let them grow what they want on it.

Reforming agriculture is just about the best damned thing that could be done for Uzbekistan, in my opinion. It&#039;s a shame that nothing will be done until a whole hell of a lot more suffering goes on than has already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it will probably continue after him as well until a truly major crisis develops. Even if those controlling the state were not corrupt, there is so much reliance on cotton funds, that it would be very hard to give farmers the land and let them grow what they want on it.</p>
<p>Reforming agriculture is just about the best damned thing that could be done for Uzbekistan, in my opinion. It&#8217;s a shame that nothing will be done until a whole hell of a lot more suffering goes on than has already.</p>
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