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		<title>By: péter wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>péter wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khattab was born in Jordan. He was Circassian by origin, his family  emigrated from Caucasus after 1862, probably settled first somewhere in Asia Minor, then resettled later in Transjordan.</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, so that&#039;s the story I linked to. Again, using our reading skills, we learn that this was a live fire exercise, not combat. To the best of my knowledge, the M-777 hasn&#039;t been used in combat in Khost or anywhere else in RC-East... which would mean I was right in discussing the capabilities of the M-198. Again, unless you can point to some sources that say otherwise.

From the Pajhwak story:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Three Chechen militants of the dreaded Al-Qaeda organization were killed and six including four Afghan militants were wounded during a joint operation of Afghan and US-led coalition troops in the southern province of Zabul, officials said on Thursday.

Dai Chopan district chief Fazal Bari told Pajhwok Afghan News the Chechen were killed in the district on Wednesday night.

He added on a tip off the operation was held in Kotaly village of the district where three Chechens were perished another two including four Afghan militants were wounded...

However in a statement emailed to this news agency from Bagram Airbase the US-led coalition troops have said the operation was held in Surkh-i-Sang area of the district.

Militants had attacked on the Afghan and US-led coalition troops and were escaping the scene when the air forces arrived and attacked the militants, said 1st Lt. Jim Wilt in the statement.

She added there were no causalities to the US-led coalition troops and they had no information about the exact number of those killed. However Taliban spokesman Qari Yousuf Ahmadi rejected the claims and phoned this news agency that they have no foreign militants in the named area.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So they don&#039;t know where the battle took place, or how many died, but they DO know there were three Chechens among them?  Riiiiight.

Also, no need for cursing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, so that&#8217;s the story I linked to. Again, using our reading skills, we learn that this was a live fire exercise, not combat. To the best of my knowledge, the M-777 hasn&#8217;t been used in combat in Khost or anywhere else in RC-East&#8230; which would mean I was right in discussing the capabilities of the M-198. Again, unless you can point to some sources that say otherwise.</p>
<p>From the Pajhwak story:</p>
<blockquote><p>Three Chechen militants of the dreaded Al-Qaeda organization were killed and six including four Afghan militants were wounded during a joint operation of Afghan and US-led coalition troops in the southern province of Zabul, officials said on Thursday.</p>
<p>Dai Chopan district chief Fazal Bari told Pajhwok Afghan News the Chechen were killed in the district on Wednesday night.</p>
<p>He added on a tip off the operation was held in Kotaly village of the district where three Chechens were perished another two including four Afghan militants were wounded&#8230;</p>
<p>However in a statement emailed to this news agency from Bagram Airbase the US-led coalition troops have said the operation was held in Surkh-i-Sang area of the district.</p>
<p>Militants had attacked on the Afghan and US-led coalition troops and were escaping the scene when the air forces arrived and attacked the militants, said 1st Lt. Jim Wilt in the statement.</p>
<p>She added there were no causalities to the US-led coalition troops and they had no information about the exact number of those killed. However Taliban spokesman Qari Yousuf Ahmadi rejected the claims and phoned this news agency that they have no foreign militants in the named area.</p></blockquote>
<p>So they don&#8217;t know where the battle took place, or how many died, but they DO know there were three Chechens among them?  Riiiiight.</p>
<p>Also, no need for cursing here.</p>
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		<title>By: sgt. john b</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt. john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M-777 is in Khost already in Khost, dumb ass. 

http://cjtf-a.com/index.php/Command-Information/3/321st-FA-M777-Howitzer-Live-Fire-Exercise-at-FOB-Salerno.html

Chechens are in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

http://www.pajhwak.com/viewstory.asp?lng=eng&amp;id=51650

Plain and simple, you&#039;re a fucking retard and your website blows-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M-777 is in Khost already in Khost, dumb ass. </p>
<p><a href="http://cjtf-a.com/index.php/Command-Information/3/321st-FA-M777-Howitzer-Live-Fire-Exercise-at-FOB-Salerno.html" rel="nofollow">http://cjtf-a.com/index.php/Command-Information/3/321st-FA-M777-Howitzer-Live-Fire-Exercise-at-FOB-Salerno.html</a></p>
<p>Chechens are in Afghanistan and Pakistan.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pajhwak.com/viewstory.asp?lng=eng&#038;id=51650" rel="nofollow">http://www.pajhwak.com/viewstory.asp?lng=eng&#038;id=51650</a></p>
<p>Plain and simple, you&#8217;re a fucking retard and your website blows-</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy, tiger. If you&#039;re gonna quote Afghanistanica, quote it in full:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This is all so sad. I attempted to find out about this incident and fought some interesting facts about this Chechen:

    A Russian man, disguised as a woman, was arrested during a search in the restive southeastern province of Paktia Saturday afternoon. Governor Rehmatullah Rehmat produced the detainee - named Andrei - before tribal elders at the governor’s house here.

Hmmm. “Andrei” doesn’t seem like a proper name for a Chechen. What else did Pajhwok news say?:

    The suspect insisted he had arrived in Afghanistan to return to his country, and that he did not want to support militants or perpetrate violence against anyone. However, he would not say what prompted him to put on women’s clothes.

I won’t judge this man based on how he dresses. But I’m still curious (added by editor: not a freudian slip. I swear). Why was he in the area?:

    Initially, he went to Egypt for receiving religious education. Later on, the young man moved to Iran for higher Islamic studies. Prior to his entry into Afghanistan, he was studying in a Pakistani seminary. Andrei continued he spent some time in the southern port city of Karachi before shifting to Mir Ali town of Waziristan, lying close to the Pak-Afghan border. He lived in Pakistan’s troubled northwestern tribal region for six months. From Mir Ali, he managed to enter Khost in an effort to reach Kabul. The detainee planned to go from the Afghan capital to Tajikistan and then to Russia.

Aaaaw! He wants to go home. He hates Pakistan. It’s so sad. (But what’s the deal with hanging out in Iran? They’re like, so munafiqeen and stuff). Anyways, this is the gist of it:

    The lanky man, in an exclusive chat with Pajhwok Afghan News, said he was a resident of Siberia. Sporting a long beard, the 28-year-old added he had embraced Islam.

Pffft! He’s not even a Chechen. He’s likely an ethnic Russian or the member of some ethnic minority in Siberia who thinks that naming your kid “Andrei” is cool (and who can grow a beard).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, that guy wasn&#039;t a Chechen. He continues, &quot;My point is, other than that US troops and Afghan security officers are mistakenly using “Chechen” in the place of “Russian” and “not Chechen at all,” is that I’m right. Oh, and there are no Chechens in Afghanistan or nearby. Sorry for being so unbearable about the whole thing.&quot;

This has nothing to do with &quot;the global jihad.&quot; Chechens care about Chechnya and Russia. They&#039;re not radicals the same way Zawahiri is.

Good grief man. You may think I&#039;m naive but I can at least read the sources I use as evidence.

And fine, Excaliburs have a CEP of between 5 and 10 meters. How again does that matter when trying to hit a single house or room in a mud compound? The blast damage, even at 5 meters, would cause tremendous damage to the surrounding structures. Remember: they&#039;re shooting at structures like this:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.natcapinc.com/picts/side/AfghanistanVillage_Whole.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; height=&quot;300&quot;/&gt;

And the M-777 isn&#039;t in widespread use yet, the best news sources I could find actually have the Canadians fielding it, not the Americans. The Canadians are in Kandahar -- nowhere near Khost. FOB Salerno has hosted some &lt;a href=&quot;http://cjtf-a.com/index.php/Command-Information/3/321st-FA-M777-Howitzer-Live-Fire-Exercise-at-FOB-Salerno.html&quot;&gt;live-fire exercises&lt;/a&gt;, but there aren&#039;t yet press accounts of it being used in action... unless this counts (the bit about range? So what? Artillery could shoot a whole 2 miles decades ago). 

You got some sources you&#039;re not too damned superior to share?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy, tiger. If you&#8217;re gonna quote Afghanistanica, quote it in full:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is all so sad. I attempted to find out about this incident and fought some interesting facts about this Chechen:</p>
<p>    A Russian man, disguised as a woman, was arrested during a search in the restive southeastern province of Paktia Saturday afternoon. Governor Rehmatullah Rehmat produced the detainee &#8211; named Andrei &#8211; before tribal elders at the governor’s house here.</p>
<p>Hmmm. “Andrei” doesn’t seem like a proper name for a Chechen. What else did Pajhwok news say?:</p>
<p>    The suspect insisted he had arrived in Afghanistan to return to his country, and that he did not want to support militants or perpetrate violence against anyone. However, he would not say what prompted him to put on women’s clothes.</p>
<p>I won’t judge this man based on how he dresses. But I’m still curious (added by editor: not a freudian slip. I swear). Why was he in the area?:</p>
<p>    Initially, he went to Egypt for receiving religious education. Later on, the young man moved to Iran for higher Islamic studies. Prior to his entry into Afghanistan, he was studying in a Pakistani seminary. Andrei continued he spent some time in the southern port city of Karachi before shifting to Mir Ali town of Waziristan, lying close to the Pak-Afghan border. He lived in Pakistan’s troubled northwestern tribal region for six months. From Mir Ali, he managed to enter Khost in an effort to reach Kabul. The detainee planned to go from the Afghan capital to Tajikistan and then to Russia.</p>
<p>Aaaaw! He wants to go home. He hates Pakistan. It’s so sad. (But what’s the deal with hanging out in Iran? They’re like, so munafiqeen and stuff). Anyways, this is the gist of it:</p>
<p>    The lanky man, in an exclusive chat with Pajhwok Afghan News, said he was a resident of Siberia. Sporting a long beard, the 28-year-old added he had embraced Islam.</p>
<p>Pffft! He’s not even a Chechen. He’s likely an ethnic Russian or the member of some ethnic minority in Siberia who thinks that naming your kid “Andrei” is cool (and who can grow a beard).</p></blockquote>
<p>So, that guy wasn&#8217;t a Chechen. He continues, &#8220;My point is, other than that US troops and Afghan security officers are mistakenly using “Chechen” in the place of “Russian” and “not Chechen at all,” is that I’m right. Oh, and there are no Chechens in Afghanistan or nearby. Sorry for being so unbearable about the whole thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with &#8220;the global jihad.&#8221; Chechens care about Chechnya and Russia. They&#8217;re not radicals the same way Zawahiri is.</p>
<p>Good grief man. You may think I&#8217;m naive but I can at least read the sources I use as evidence.</p>
<p>And fine, Excaliburs have a CEP of between 5 and 10 meters. How again does that matter when trying to hit a single house or room in a mud compound? The blast damage, even at 5 meters, would cause tremendous damage to the surrounding structures. Remember: they&#8217;re shooting at structures like this:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.natcapinc.com/picts/side/AfghanistanVillage_Whole.jpg" width="400" height="300"/></p>
<p>And the M-777 isn&#8217;t in widespread use yet, the best news sources I could find actually have the Canadians fielding it, not the Americans. The Canadians are in Kandahar &#8212; nowhere near Khost. FOB Salerno has hosted some <a href="http://cjtf-a.com/index.php/Command-Information/3/321st-FA-M777-Howitzer-Live-Fire-Exercise-at-FOB-Salerno.html">live-fire exercises</a>, but there aren&#8217;t yet press accounts of it being used in action&#8230; unless this counts (the bit about range? So what? Artillery could shoot a whole 2 miles decades ago). </p>
<p>You got some sources you&#8217;re not too damned superior to share?</p>
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		<title>By: sgt. john b</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt. john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See post about Chechens...

http://afghanistanica.com/?s=Chechens

Whoops! They Caught a Chechen

This was in the same link that you implied there were no Chechens in Afghanistan. Why wouldn&#039;t they be? Khattab was an Afghan veteran, later he lost some fingers when he fought jihad in Tajikistan....so there&#039;s no Chechens in Tajikistan? Chechens can&#039;t fight jihad in Afghanistan or Tajikistan? Chechens can&#039;t leave Chechnya? What are you saying here?

Egyptians, Saudis and Algerians can fight global jihad...but not Chechens. That is retarded dude- How naive are you? Stick with what you know.

M-777&#039;s are now deployed to eastern Afghanistan, including Khost, and fire Excalibur GPS guided munitions, 40-km maximum range.

Too many holes to poke, way to naive to waste my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See post about Chechens&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://afghanistanica.com/?s=Chechens" rel="nofollow">http://afghanistanica.com/?s=Chechens</a></p>
<p>Whoops! They Caught a Chechen</p>
<p>This was in the same link that you implied there were no Chechens in Afghanistan. Why wouldn&#8217;t they be? Khattab was an Afghan veteran, later he lost some fingers when he fought jihad in Tajikistan&#8230;.so there&#8217;s no Chechens in Tajikistan? Chechens can&#8217;t fight jihad in Afghanistan or Tajikistan? Chechens can&#8217;t leave Chechnya? What are you saying here?</p>
<p>Egyptians, Saudis and Algerians can fight global jihad&#8230;but not Chechens. That is retarded dude- How naive are you? Stick with what you know.</p>
<p>M-777&#8242;s are now deployed to eastern Afghanistan, including Khost, and fire Excalibur GPS guided munitions, 40-km maximum range.</p>
<p>Too many holes to poke, way to naive to waste my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been other articles on this topic lately, with real information -- not this nonsense on the LWJ.  Despite the &quot;gallows humor&quot; titles, both are serious journalism.

&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174906/philip_k_dick_meet_george_w_bush&quot;&gt;Blowing Them Away Means Never Having to Say You&#039;re Sorry&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, Tom Engelhardt  (16 March 2008)

&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/03/the-us-militarys-assassination-problem.html&quot;&gt;The U.S. Military&#039;s Assassination Problem&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, Mother Jones (10 March 2008)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been other articles on this topic lately, with real information &#8212; not this nonsense on the LWJ.  Despite the &#8220;gallows humor&#8221; titles, both are serious journalism.</p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174906/philip_k_dick_meet_george_w_bush">Blowing Them Away Means Never Having to Say You&#8217;re Sorry</a>&#8220;, Tom Engelhardt  (16 March 2008)</p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/03/the-us-militarys-assassination-problem.html">The U.S. Military&#8217;s Assassination Problem</a>&#8220;, Mother Jones (10 March 2008)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why we can&#039;t have nice things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why we can&#8217;t have nice things.</p>
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