Comments on: Another War in the Caucasus? http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/ Central Asia News -- All Central Asia, All The Time Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:53:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Michael Hancock http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376945 Michael Hancock Sat, 03 May 2008 23:17:20 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376945 Anti-Russia Propaganda? I think La Russophobe has that covered. Anti-Russia Propaganda? I think La Russophobe has that covered.

]]> By: JACK http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376936 JACK Sat, 03 May 2008 01:47:12 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376936 maybe you can cut down on your blatantly anTirussia PROPAGAnda NEXT TIME???? i'N NOT HOLDING MY breAth THOUGH. maybe you can cut down on your blatantly anTirussia PROPAGAnda NEXT TIME???? i’N NOT HOLDING MY breAth THOUGH.

]]> By: Oldschool Boy http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376932 Oldschool Boy Thu, 01 May 2008 16:50:00 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376932 Sorry, may be a half is a too strong word, but a big part. Sorry, may be a half is a too strong word, but a big part.

]]> By: Oldschool Boy http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376931 Oldschool Boy Thu, 01 May 2008 16:48:55 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376931 Diana, You sound like being brainwashed by Russian media. No offence please. Even people very far from politics and international relations, and even from the region (like myself) know that the war in Abhazia was supported, if not organized, by the Russian security. They gave money and weapons to people like Shamil Basaev, who started his terrorist career in Abhazia. Half of the fighters against georgians in Abhazia were from Russia: cossacs, chechens, people from Karachaevo-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria and so on. They were all united by hatred to georgians and russian weapon. Diana,
You sound like being brainwashed by Russian media. No offence please. Even people very far from politics and international relations, and even from the region (like myself) know that the war in Abhazia was supported, if not organized, by the Russian security. They gave money and weapons to people like Shamil Basaev, who started his terrorist career in Abhazia. Half of the fighters against georgians in Abhazia were from Russia: cossacs, chechens, people from Karachaevo-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria and so on. They were all united by hatred to georgians and russian weapon.

]]> By: Nathan http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376923 Nathan Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:33:43 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376923 Waitaminnit. Diana, I read your comment more closely. Where in the Caucasus were you a reporter and when were you reporting from there? I mean, come on. This blog is kind of a journalistic endeavor and I've been to Central Asia. Doesn't mean that I ask you take me as the last word on something like Andijon. I wasn't there. And if you were really engaged in the region and didn't hear about this until recently, you weren't paying attention. Reporting on it from 1992-1995 isn't too hard to find. Waitaminnit. Diana, I read your comment more closely. Where in the Caucasus were you a reporter and when were you reporting from there?

I mean, come on. This blog is kind of a journalistic endeavor and I’ve been to Central Asia. Doesn’t mean that I ask you take me as the last word on something like Andijon. I wasn’t there.

And if you were really engaged in the region and didn’t hear about this until recently, you weren’t paying attention. Reporting on it from 1992-1995 isn’t too hard to find.

]]> By: Joshua Foust http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376922 Joshua Foust Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:47:37 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376922 Diana, I believe the term I used was ethnic cleansing. This is to be distinguished from genocide, as genocide involves mass killings. Ethnic cleansing generally involves fewer, but more targeted, killings, along with a large scale forced expulsion. "Anyone" familiar with refugee movements and conflict zones would know the difference between them. Don't twist my words. As Nathan says, there is little dispute that Abkhazians ethnically cleansed their territory of ethnic Georgians. Diana, I believe the term I used was ethnic cleansing. This is to be distinguished from genocide, as genocide involves mass killings. Ethnic cleansing generally involves fewer, but more targeted, killings, along with a large scale forced expulsion. “Anyone” familiar with refugee movements and conflict zones would know the difference between them. Don’t twist my words.

As Nathan says, there is little dispute that Abkhazians ethnically cleansed their territory of ethnic Georgians.

]]> By: Nathan http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376921 Nathan Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:44:24 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376921 Diana, no one has said "genocide." I know a Georgian who was among the expelled and who ended up a refugee in Tbilisi. Call it what you will, but a large number of ethnic Georgians who were living in Abkhazia ended up taking refuge in Georgia proper. Diana, no one has said “genocide.” I know a Georgian who was among the expelled and who ended up a refugee in Tbilisi. Call it what you will, but a large number of ethnic Georgians who were living in Abkhazia ended up taking refuge in Georgia proper.

]]> By: Diana Friedman http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376920 Diana Friedman Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:37:04 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376920 Hello, regarding the ethnic cleansing of Georgians, this is inaccurate. No such genocide occured. I was a freelance reporter in the Caucasus after the fall of the USSR, and have been in Abkhazia several times. I never heard of this until recent times when I, surprisingly, found out Georgians had pushed this fabrication all the way to the OSCE and other international bodies. There was no genocide. This is a pure lie. If anything, Georgians were the ones to attack Abkhazians, who were unprepared for battle at the time, and also have had a hand in massacring hundreds if not thousands of innocent Abkhazian villages and fighters. Would you stand aside and let your country be overrun by a people who have continuously oppressed you and denied you your basic rights solely based on your ethnicity? I doubt that. Please try to look further into this matter. Anyone who has experience in the Caucasus region or knows its history...or, someone like me, who has been there and lived among them know that this is incorrect. Hello, regarding the ethnic cleansing of Georgians, this is inaccurate. No such genocide occured. I was a freelance reporter in the Caucasus after the fall of the USSR, and have been in Abkhazia several times. I never heard of this until recent times when I, surprisingly, found out Georgians had pushed this fabrication all the way to the OSCE and other international bodies. There was no genocide. This is a pure lie. If anything, Georgians were the ones to attack Abkhazians, who were unprepared for battle at the time, and also have had a hand in massacring hundreds if not thousands of innocent Abkhazian villages and fighters.

Would you stand aside and let your country be overrun by a people who have continuously oppressed you and denied you your basic rights solely based on your ethnicity? I doubt that. Please try to look further into this matter. Anyone who has experience in the Caucasus region or knows its history…or, someone like me, who has been there and lived among them know that this is incorrect.

]]> By: Nathan http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376919 Nathan Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:58:58 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376919 Anouk, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. One of the ways that Georgia can win back control over the territory is to win the international PR battle. This, in turn, can be helped along by baiting Russia into overly aggressive acts. Anouk, those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. One of the ways that Georgia can win back control over the territory is to win the international PR battle. This, in turn, can be helped along by baiting Russia into overly aggressive acts.

]]> By: anouk http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/comment-page-1/#comment-376918 anouk Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:07:43 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/another-war-in-the-caucasus/#comment-376918 Andy, you probably have no idea what u r talking about? (''I think both want to (and probably will) push each other as far as they possibly can short of provoking actual conflict'') . Do you forget Georgians are trying to defend their land and Russians are trying to anex it! don't u see the difference here? Andy,
you probably have no idea what u r talking about? (”I think both want to (and probably will) push each other as far as they possibly can short of provoking actual conflict”) .
Do you forget Georgians are trying to defend their land and Russians are trying to anex it! don’t u see the difference here?

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