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	<title>Comments on: War Is Peace, and Other Orwells at the Journal</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/war-is-peace-and-other-orwells-at-the-journal/comment-page-1/#comment-376916</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I can&#039;t deny I&#039;m jealous of the ability to just pick up and spend a week or two reporting from these places, then get paid to write about it afterward. But while such trips are funsies for the reporter, they&#039;re annoying as hell to the rest of us who would just like honest reporting of what&#039;s going on. And when they waste it like Stephens did, the frustration goes deeper, like &lt;i&gt;how could you have blown it like that&lt;/i&gt;?

I think &lt;a href=&quot;http://warisboring.com/?cat=68&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Axe&lt;/a&gt; achieved this quite nicely in his trip to Afghanistan. His visit was clearly steered a bit by the PAOs, but he also did a great job of breaking out of that and offering an independent, and locally relevant, perspective on what&#039;s going on. He wrote daily journals of what was going on PLUS many more pieces in various news outlets—in ten days. A much more impressive feat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I can&#8217;t deny I&#8217;m jealous of the ability to just pick up and spend a week or two reporting from these places, then get paid to write about it afterward. But while such trips are funsies for the reporter, they&#8217;re annoying as hell to the rest of us who would just like honest reporting of what&#8217;s going on. And when they waste it like Stephens did, the frustration goes deeper, like <i>how could you have blown it like that</i>?</p>
<p>I think <a href="http://warisboring.com/?cat=68" rel="nofollow">David Axe</a> achieved this quite nicely in his trip to Afghanistan. His visit was clearly steered a bit by the PAOs, but he also did a great job of breaking out of that and offering an independent, and locally relevant, perspective on what&#8217;s going on. He wrote daily journals of what was going on PLUS many more pieces in various news outlets—in ten days. A much more impressive feat.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sadly, it is obvious when a reporter tries to disguise his adventure tourism as a reporting trip.&quot;

Heh.  I&#039;m jealous of these people.

&quot;normally they do a better job of hiding just how tightly they were handled by the PAO.&quot;

Yeah, this is the key point here, and I couldn&#039;t agree more.  

The other big thing is just looking at the trend lines.  Are things getting better, or worse?  I&#039;d say things are trending worse, for sure.  And what does history show us about foreign powers in Afghanistan?  Nothing good, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sadly, it is obvious when a reporter tries to disguise his adventure tourism as a reporting trip.&#8221;</p>
<p>Heh.  I&#8217;m jealous of these people.</p>
<p>&#8220;normally they do a better job of hiding just how tightly they were handled by the PAO.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, this is the key point here, and I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  </p>
<p>The other big thing is just looking at the trend lines.  Are things getting better, or worse?  I&#8217;d say things are trending worse, for sure.  And what does history show us about foreign powers in Afghanistan?  Nothing good, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/04/29/war-is-peace-and-other-orwells-at-the-journal/comment-page-1/#comment-376910</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite, &quot;Admiral.&quot; Stephens&#039; invocation of John Kerry, rather than, say Defense Secretary Robert Gates, NATO head Jaap de Hoop Sheffer, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, scholars like Barnett Rubin or Carl Robichaud, or even local journalists such as Mohammad Fakim or Alex Strick van Linschoten tells me he is filtering the fight there through a strictly partisan lens. In doing so, he also distorts Afghanistan&#039;s history (whether by choice or ignorance I can&#039;t say) and writes off a serious attack on the President—which killed several people, let us not forget—as nothing more than a delay for his flight home.

All this, on a single week long embed shuttling between cities hundreds of miles away. Given the status of transportation in Afghanistan, he couldn&#039;t have spent more than two days in each location. How can you possibly gauge  independently how well a war is going from that? You cannot. He let the military feed him a narrative, and he repeated that uncritically.

If, on the other hand, he had spent his time interviewing local Afghans apart from his handlers and still came to the same conclusion, I&#039;d give it more heft. When the British embeds in the south (Helmand, mostly) report good news, it is worth considering. Despite their similar emplacement with military units, they&#039;re at least on the ground long enough to get a sense of how things are going, and a sense for cutting through the B.S. official source sling about.

If you&#039;re going to declare a situation is going other than the universally accepted wisdom, you have to come up with more than a few days&#039; interviews on a brief jaunt through a conflict zone. Stephens&#039; work doesn&#039;t pass basic muster on that count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite, &#8220;Admiral.&#8221; Stephens&#8217; invocation of John Kerry, rather than, say Defense Secretary Robert Gates, NATO head Jaap de Hoop Sheffer, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, scholars like Barnett Rubin or Carl Robichaud, or even local journalists such as Mohammad Fakim or Alex Strick van Linschoten tells me he is filtering the fight there through a strictly partisan lens. In doing so, he also distorts Afghanistan&#8217;s history (whether by choice or ignorance I can&#8217;t say) and writes off a serious attack on the President—which killed several people, let us not forget—as nothing more than a delay for his flight home.</p>
<p>All this, on a single week long embed shuttling between cities hundreds of miles away. Given the status of transportation in Afghanistan, he couldn&#8217;t have spent more than two days in each location. How can you possibly gauge  independently how well a war is going from that? You cannot. He let the military feed him a narrative, and he repeated that uncritically.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, he had spent his time interviewing local Afghans apart from his handlers and still came to the same conclusion, I&#8217;d give it more heft. When the British embeds in the south (Helmand, mostly) report good news, it is worth considering. Despite their similar emplacement with military units, they&#8217;re at least on the ground long enough to get a sense of how things are going, and a sense for cutting through the B.S. official source sling about.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to declare a situation is going other than the universally accepted wisdom, you have to come up with more than a few days&#8217; interviews on a brief jaunt through a conflict zone. Stephens&#8217; work doesn&#8217;t pass basic muster on that count.</p>
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		<title>By: Admiral</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admiral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More righteous indignation leveled at those who see something more than the chaos argued for on this blog. He didn&#039;t say everything was going damned well, he asserted that the notion that the notion of &quot;losing Afghanistan&quot; was &quot;overblown&quot; (at a minimum). That is a far, far cry from the words you keep trying to put on these people&#039;s mouths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More righteous indignation leveled at those who see something more than the chaos argued for on this blog. He didn&#8217;t say everything was going damned well, he asserted that the notion that the notion of &#8220;losing Afghanistan&#8221; was &#8220;overblown&#8221; (at a minimum). That is a far, far cry from the words you keep trying to put on these people&#8217;s mouths.</p>
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