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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377418</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. The blog has already helped me land a good job. I do encourage new talent to join as writing her has worked out very well for me.</description>
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		<title>By: just a random visitor</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377415</link>
		<dc:creator>just a random visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, folks, I don&#039;t want to blow this topic out of proportion. So, please, take this as just a minor footnote.

@Nathan: I hear ya. Motivation is a bitch. But, hey, your writings on Registan boost your visibility. You&#039;ll get noticed in due time. Job offers will follow. It&#039;s nice to face suitors. Feels sexy.  Think about all that and inspiration will hit you big time. As always, you are welcome.

@Joshua: Man, you have every right to be proud of Registan. You, Nathan and Michael have made it a top site for all things Central Asian. I wasn&#039;t disputing that. 

Onto the main subject.  You contradict yourself. You say people shouldn&#039;t be hypersensitive and in right there you admit you are (about DC being a swamp). Well, if you feel the choice is stark, it&#039;s a dichotomy, it&#039;s either the way it is or boring academic prose. Well, then definitely keep it as is. Nobody wants a boring Registan. But if you think shades of gray are possible, then some thoughtfulness wouldn&#039;t hurt. Barnett Rubin, whom you seem to respect, doesn&#039;t suffer fools lightly. But he doesn&#039;t go all out either.  The idea is not  to bend over backwards to please every random visitor to the site. I don&#039;t think the Oldchoolboy is hypersensitive. Nor is he a random visitor. He&#039;s been coming here for quite some time. He&#039;s been cool and wrote good stuff.  There is no evidence that he&#039;s the type  who flies off the handle at the slightest irritation. So, why not accommodate his  sensibilities instead of risking pushing him away? 

I am no expert on any of the subjects you write about. But a pattern does seem to exist. You voice your opinion and then some expert with tons of verifiable expertise under his belt shows up and says you are wrong. Your counter-response  sometimes feels like a backtracking. Overtime, good folks here can unjustly think of you and Registan as a place where some dudes just blow hot air. Again, the idea is not either-or. It&#039;s more about a balance between using the time just to write or using the time to read a lot and then write. Just my 2 cents&#039; worth.

@Oldschoolboy: By the looks of it, you know what you say about  doing your &quot;internationalist duty&quot;, you are old enough that we can say you got good, old Soviet education. Those commies were good at drilling into people&#039;s heads the idea that criticizing the government or the state equals insulting the country. I&#039;m not saying you have that attitude. But I think it&#039;&#039;s sitting in the back of the head of all the former Soviets. It&#039;s good to be on the lookout for it before it jumps into action. Or, you can dissolve it in a massive amount of a good single malt stuff. The way I handle difficult attitudes of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, folks, I don&#8217;t want to blow this topic out of proportion. So, please, take this as just a minor footnote.</p>
<p>@Nathan: I hear ya. Motivation is a bitch. But, hey, your writings on Registan boost your visibility. You&#8217;ll get noticed in due time. Job offers will follow. It&#8217;s nice to face suitors. Feels sexy.  Think about all that and inspiration will hit you big time. As always, you are welcome.</p>
<p>@Joshua: Man, you have every right to be proud of Registan. You, Nathan and Michael have made it a top site for all things Central Asian. I wasn&#8217;t disputing that. </p>
<p>Onto the main subject.  You contradict yourself. You say people shouldn&#8217;t be hypersensitive and in right there you admit you are (about DC being a swamp). Well, if you feel the choice is stark, it&#8217;s a dichotomy, it&#8217;s either the way it is or boring academic prose. Well, then definitely keep it as is. Nobody wants a boring Registan. But if you think shades of gray are possible, then some thoughtfulness wouldn&#8217;t hurt. Barnett Rubin, whom you seem to respect, doesn&#8217;t suffer fools lightly. But he doesn&#8217;t go all out either.  The idea is not  to bend over backwards to please every random visitor to the site. I don&#8217;t think the Oldchoolboy is hypersensitive. Nor is he a random visitor. He&#8217;s been coming here for quite some time. He&#8217;s been cool and wrote good stuff.  There is no evidence that he&#8217;s the type  who flies off the handle at the slightest irritation. So, why not accommodate his  sensibilities instead of risking pushing him away? </p>
<p>I am no expert on any of the subjects you write about. But a pattern does seem to exist. You voice your opinion and then some expert with tons of verifiable expertise under his belt shows up and says you are wrong. Your counter-response  sometimes feels like a backtracking. Overtime, good folks here can unjustly think of you and Registan as a place where some dudes just blow hot air. Again, the idea is not either-or. It&#8217;s more about a balance between using the time just to write or using the time to read a lot and then write. Just my 2 cents&#8217; worth.</p>
<p>@Oldschoolboy: By the looks of it, you know what you say about  doing your &#8220;internationalist duty&#8221;, you are old enough that we can say you got good, old Soviet education. Those commies were good at drilling into people&#8217;s heads the idea that criticizing the government or the state equals insulting the country. I&#8217;m not saying you have that attitude. But I think it&#8221;s sitting in the back of the head of all the former Soviets. It&#8217;s good to be on the lookout for it before it jumps into action. Or, you can dissolve it in a massive amount of a good single malt stuff. The way I handle difficult attitudes of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Turgai Sangar</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377399</link>
		<dc:creator>Turgai Sangar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But go easier on emotions and use the freed-up space for saying the substantive stuff. (...) I think, it’s a total shame that someone like Turgai only posts comments.&quot;

JARV, I would not call myself an emotional but rather a go-getter and someone who has seen one or two things. Likewise, what happens in CA is much more &#039;my business&#039; that some think just because you were not born and did not grow up in the region. As for contributing more than comments, it is flattering but I don’t have the time to research and write fully-fledged articles for the blogsosphere. 

&quot;Being nice and inoffensive is wonderful in the vast majority of cases, but it really can be taken too far. This is not a detached academic blog — those exist about the region, and their readership reflects how interesting they are to read — but rather a space for those who are passionate about the region and wish to see it given its right due, both within media coverage but also within the West’s strategic milieu.&quot; 

Yes Joshua. And also, if you don&#039;t play it tough or run into things with a bulldozer, no-one listens. Registan is ‘very American’ and I don’t belong to that sphere but indeed two things I like a lot about the blog is a) that it is written and animated by sincerely interested people and passionates who all have spent certain amounts of time in the region and b) that I reaches out beyond the Southern Soviet rim into Afghanistan and Pakistan too.

There’s also New Eurasia but I find that it has become really tame and boring lately.

&quot;BTW, did you tell Turgai to shut up on that other discussion where he was multiple posting the same text?&quot;

You mean the thread on Protestants in Kyrgyzstan? That message was accidentaly posted six times (st. with the blog) not because I wanted if that way (I&#039;m not gaga to that point yet :) ).
 
“This is not a detached academic blog — those exist about the region, and their readership reflects how interesting they are to read (...) As such, being dry and perfectly Swedish about the topic really gets us no where.”

Of course, any similarity to Svante Cornell and John Schöberlein is purely coincidental. :) LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But go easier on emotions and use the freed-up space for saying the substantive stuff. (&#8230;) I think, it’s a total shame that someone like Turgai only posts comments.&#8221;</p>
<p>JARV, I would not call myself an emotional but rather a go-getter and someone who has seen one or two things. Likewise, what happens in CA is much more &#8216;my business&#8217; that some think just because you were not born and did not grow up in the region. As for contributing more than comments, it is flattering but I don’t have the time to research and write fully-fledged articles for the blogsosphere. </p>
<p>&#8220;Being nice and inoffensive is wonderful in the vast majority of cases, but it really can be taken too far. This is not a detached academic blog — those exist about the region, and their readership reflects how interesting they are to read — but rather a space for those who are passionate about the region and wish to see it given its right due, both within media coverage but also within the West’s strategic milieu.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yes Joshua. And also, if you don&#8217;t play it tough or run into things with a bulldozer, no-one listens. Registan is ‘very American’ and I don’t belong to that sphere but indeed two things I like a lot about the blog is a) that it is written and animated by sincerely interested people and passionates who all have spent certain amounts of time in the region and b) that I reaches out beyond the Southern Soviet rim into Afghanistan and Pakistan too.</p>
<p>There’s also New Eurasia but I find that it has become really tame and boring lately.</p>
<p>&#8220;BTW, did you tell Turgai to shut up on that other discussion where he was multiple posting the same text?&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean the thread on Protestants in Kyrgyzstan? That message was accidentaly posted six times (st. with the blog) not because I wanted if that way (I&#8217;m not gaga to that point yet <img src='http://registan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>“This is not a detached academic blog — those exist about the region, and their readership reflects how interesting they are to read (&#8230;) As such, being dry and perfectly Swedish about the topic really gets us no where.”</p>
<p>Of course, any similarity to Svante Cornell and John Schöberlein is purely coincidental. <img src='http://registan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Oldschool Boy</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377392</link>
		<dc:creator>Oldschool Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like Registan. I can not say I always crazy about articles, but it just because they are often about things that I do not know. For instance, let&#039;s say, Afghanistan. I do not even know hoe it is spelled. Last time I saw Afghani people I was carrying some sort of &quot;international duty&quot;, at least that was how it was explained to me. But it is alright, I still like Registan.
Thank you JARV for being a referee. I know for sure it is hard to be a referee with me. I am an old school. You know, now kids are taught to deal with bullies with some sort of WITS. It is hard for me to understand, because my father always tought me only one way to deal with bullies - fight back. I got this too well; sometimes this fighting can go to the extent of almost becoming a bully myself. Please, nobody take it to his or her address, I am not accusing anybody of being a bully. I am just talking about myself, and I am sort of drunk too.
I can&#039;t really say whether someone cares about Kazakhstan and Central Asia or not. We can write all sorts of stuff. Another thing my father taught me - it does not matter what people say or write, it matters what they do. That is why I am not going to say I am caring about Kazakhstan, and I do not care whether anybody who reads this site cares. 
But what I like here is intelligent and balanced discussion. I am sometimes too tired of Worlds crazyness, all I need is my little family and a someone to talk to over beer.
Joshua, JAVR, I never said that nobody can critisize Kazakhstan, everybody wellcome (although, I found long time ago that criticism seldom does anything). So if we agreed that critisizm of a whole country is allowed, and even encouraged, it means that criticism of one person should be allowed too. Shouldn&#039;t it? So, you guys critisize (man, how to spell it?) the entire country, or a government, I critisize a single person. It was Michael (Sorry Michael). You know, as a consultant with some international experience I found out (what the hell, I was trained) that in negotiation it is more fruitful to focus not on an entire cause (or party), but on a person who you talk to.
I found a weak point (points) of Michael and focused on it. It created a lot of emotions! 
It should teach him and everybody, including myself, a lesson. Whenever you critisize somebody&#039;s opinion, use only well balanced and well researched arguments. Do your homework. It is even easier with blog discussions, since you have a lot of time to make a research.  Never use emotions. I did not, honestly, I have been in Astana only once for 2 days and long time ago, I do not even remember how Ishim looks like, but I have the Internet, Google Earth, etc. You got my idea. Plus, what is the argument &quot;it is too shiny&quot;?
Ok, I am wrapping up, I am also too drunk and can&#039;t gather my thoughts, plus promissed my wife to go to bed earlier. 
One more thing, yes, in Kazakhstan we are quite irrational and I am probably the least irrational one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like Registan. I can not say I always crazy about articles, but it just because they are often about things that I do not know. For instance, let&#8217;s say, Afghanistan. I do not even know hoe it is spelled. Last time I saw Afghani people I was carrying some sort of &#8220;international duty&#8221;, at least that was how it was explained to me. But it is alright, I still like Registan.<br />
Thank you JARV for being a referee. I know for sure it is hard to be a referee with me. I am an old school. You know, now kids are taught to deal with bullies with some sort of WITS. It is hard for me to understand, because my father always tought me only one way to deal with bullies &#8211; fight back. I got this too well; sometimes this fighting can go to the extent of almost becoming a bully myself. Please, nobody take it to his or her address, I am not accusing anybody of being a bully. I am just talking about myself, and I am sort of drunk too.<br />
I can&#8217;t really say whether someone cares about Kazakhstan and Central Asia or not. We can write all sorts of stuff. Another thing my father taught me &#8211; it does not matter what people say or write, it matters what they do. That is why I am not going to say I am caring about Kazakhstan, and I do not care whether anybody who reads this site cares.<br />
But what I like here is intelligent and balanced discussion. I am sometimes too tired of Worlds crazyness, all I need is my little family and a someone to talk to over beer.<br />
Joshua, JAVR, I never said that nobody can critisize Kazakhstan, everybody wellcome (although, I found long time ago that criticism seldom does anything). So if we agreed that critisizm of a whole country is allowed, and even encouraged, it means that criticism of one person should be allowed too. Shouldn&#8217;t it? So, you guys critisize (man, how to spell it?) the entire country, or a government, I critisize a single person. It was Michael (Sorry Michael). You know, as a consultant with some international experience I found out (what the hell, I was trained) that in negotiation it is more fruitful to focus not on an entire cause (or party), but on a person who you talk to.<br />
I found a weak point (points) of Michael and focused on it. It created a lot of emotions!<br />
It should teach him and everybody, including myself, a lesson. Whenever you critisize somebody&#8217;s opinion, use only well balanced and well researched arguments. Do your homework. It is even easier with blog discussions, since you have a lot of time to make a research.  Never use emotions. I did not, honestly, I have been in Astana only once for 2 days and long time ago, I do not even remember how Ishim looks like, but I have the Internet, Google Earth, etc. You got my idea. Plus, what is the argument &#8220;it is too shiny&#8221;?<br />
Ok, I am wrapping up, I am also too drunk and can&#8217;t gather my thoughts, plus promissed my wife to go to bed earlier.<br />
One more thing, yes, in Kazakhstan we are quite irrational and I am probably the least irrational one.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377390</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think JARV&#039;s criticism isn&#039;t so bad. I always welcome criticism; I do appreciate it when it&#039;s detailed and constructive. 

And hey, Josh, I don&#039;t spend all my time outside of work with my better half. I do have a damned lawn that won&#039;t quit growing. (Wait until you see the lawn at the new house -- it&#039;s disgustingly unnecessary; I&#039;d let it turn to prairie if I could.) And I have been spending a lot of time cruising the streets of Liberty City and slaughtering teenagers in Halo 3 lately. (My gamertag is Hulagu if anyone would like to join me.)

Believe me, the biggest obstacles for me are motivation and my deep distaste for repeating myself. And there&#039;s unfortunately been a downturn in good fodder for the areas and subjects in which I&#039;m most interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think JARV&#8217;s criticism isn&#8217;t so bad. I always welcome criticism; I do appreciate it when it&#8217;s detailed and constructive. </p>
<p>And hey, Josh, I don&#8217;t spend all my time outside of work with my better half. I do have a damned lawn that won&#8217;t quit growing. (Wait until you see the lawn at the new house &#8212; it&#8217;s disgustingly unnecessary; I&#8217;d let it turn to prairie if I could.) And I have been spending a lot of time cruising the streets of Liberty City and slaughtering teenagers in Halo 3 lately. (My gamertag is Hulagu if anyone would like to join me.)</p>
<p>Believe me, the biggest obstacles for me are motivation and my deep distaste for repeating myself. And there&#8217;s unfortunately been a downturn in good fodder for the areas and subjects in which I&#8217;m most interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since advice is being distributed, in which particularly egregious manner am I slacking? I know I hardly post. Over the past 12-18 months, I&#039;ve had very little motivation to blog. I still haven&#039;t gotten back into the swing of things since I had to cut back while writing my thesis, and nowadays I spend quite a bit of time in my day job focused on a different part of the world. In the interest of keeping a large wall of separation between my day job and &lt;i&gt;Registan.net&lt;/i&gt;, I don&#039;t write about said part of the world here. 

Anyhow, I&#039;ve tried to move more into a recruit and manage role myself. I&#039;d be delighted to have more people writing here. I have a real problem getting people to follow through after the first post or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since advice is being distributed, in which particularly egregious manner am I slacking? I know I hardly post. Over the past 12-18 months, I&#8217;ve had very little motivation to blog. I still haven&#8217;t gotten back into the swing of things since I had to cut back while writing my thesis, and nowadays I spend quite a bit of time in my day job focused on a different part of the world. In the interest of keeping a large wall of separation between my day job and <i>Registan.net</i>, I don&#8217;t write about said part of the world here. </p>
<p>Anyhow, I&#8217;ve tried to move more into a recruit and manage role myself. I&#8217;d be delighted to have more people writing here. I have a real problem getting people to follow through after the first post or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377388</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random Visitor:

Not to pick nits, but the way we&#039;ve described things isn&#039;t exactly grating. If accurately describing the Ishym as a mosquito pit creates such consternation (especially when it is, in fact, a mosquito pit), then the onus is on the reader&#039;s hypersensitivity to national criticism. Similarly, as a former resident of Washington DC I still sometimes bristle when someone inaccurately describes it as a swamp, or build on a swamp (it is neither), but it doesn&#039;t create the blind outrage seen in this thread. And my friends from both Louisiana and Mississippi have laughed and agreed with me when I&#039;ve called their home states swamps!

Being nice and inoffensive is wonderful in the vast majority of cases, but it really can be taken too far. If someone cannot handle a mature, honest, and no-holds-barred discussion, then they are welcome to get their news and analysis of Central Asia elsewhere (you&#039;re right that this isn&#039;t a ploy for readership). This is not a detached academic blog -- those exist about the region, and their readership reflects how interesting they are to read -- but rather a space for those who are passionate about the region and wish to see it given its right due, both within media coverage but also within the West&#039;s strategic milieu. As such, being dry and perfectly Swedish about the topic really gets us no where.

I&#039;m proud of Registan.net, of where it came from, where it is now, and where it is going in the future. And we&#039;d love to have some company. In case it weren&#039;t already obvious given Nathan&#039;s many calls for it, anyone who wishes to write for us is welcome to—that&#039;s how Michael came on board! Just ask. It is no one&#039;s fault Nathan chooses to spend time with his girlfriend outside of work, or that Michael doesn&#039;t post more book reviews, or that I happen to be much more interested in what&#039;s going on in Afghanistan/Pakistan than the intricacies of Uzbek power politics. We all have our beats we cover, and we each rely on a narrow focus to zoom in on what matters to us (I don&#039;t understand the superficiality dig, though -- do you mean about my coverage of Central Asia, or about all of my writing?).

So again: everybody just back the hell off, breathe a bit, chill out, and let&#039;s have a constructive conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random Visitor:</p>
<p>Not to pick nits, but the way we&#8217;ve described things isn&#8217;t exactly grating. If accurately describing the Ishym as a mosquito pit creates such consternation (especially when it is, in fact, a mosquito pit), then the onus is on the reader&#8217;s hypersensitivity to national criticism. Similarly, as a former resident of Washington DC I still sometimes bristle when someone inaccurately describes it as a swamp, or build on a swamp (it is neither), but it doesn&#8217;t create the blind outrage seen in this thread. And my friends from both Louisiana and Mississippi have laughed and agreed with me when I&#8217;ve called their home states swamps!</p>
<p>Being nice and inoffensive is wonderful in the vast majority of cases, but it really can be taken too far. If someone cannot handle a mature, honest, and no-holds-barred discussion, then they are welcome to get their news and analysis of Central Asia elsewhere (you&#8217;re right that this isn&#8217;t a ploy for readership). This is not a detached academic blog &#8212; those exist about the region, and their readership reflects how interesting they are to read &#8212; but rather a space for those who are passionate about the region and wish to see it given its right due, both within media coverage but also within the West&#8217;s strategic milieu. As such, being dry and perfectly Swedish about the topic really gets us no where.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m proud of Registan.net, of where it came from, where it is now, and where it is going in the future. And we&#8217;d love to have some company. In case it weren&#8217;t already obvious given Nathan&#8217;s many calls for it, anyone who wishes to write for us is welcome to—that&#8217;s how Michael came on board! Just ask. It is no one&#8217;s fault Nathan chooses to spend time with his girlfriend outside of work, or that Michael doesn&#8217;t post more book reviews, or that I happen to be much more interested in what&#8217;s going on in Afghanistan/Pakistan than the intricacies of Uzbek power politics. We all have our beats we cover, and we each rely on a narrow focus to zoom in on what matters to us (I don&#8217;t understand the superficiality dig, though &#8212; do you mean about my coverage of Central Asia, or about all of my writing?).</p>
<p>So again: everybody just back the hell off, breathe a bit, chill out, and let&#8217;s have a constructive conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: just a random visitor</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377387</link>
		<dc:creator>just a random visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, folks, looks like you need a fair and balanced referee. I&#039;m qualified. I have completely overcome all my personal biases through heavy drinking. Yep, in vino veritas. Here&#039;s some valuable advice. You can buy me a beer if/when our paths cross. 

@Michael: You have shown yourself more pro-Kazakhstan than many people who live in that country. Anyone who takes even a cursory look through your writings on this blog and on your own blog will sense that.  Having said that, I&#039;d like to quote a Russian poet who wrote:&quot;It&#039;s not given us to foretell how our words will echo.&quot; Try to be more sensitive. Here are some examples. Some people from Louisiana may not like it if you describe their home as a swamp. And some folks from Harlem may not be happy if you describe their neighborhood as a ghetto. Same with folks who grew up on the Ishim. You don&#039;t have to deliver the truth in a package that grates people&#039;s feelings. Especially since such a constraint wouldn&#039;t limit your ability to express yourself. 

@Oldschoolboy: Keep in mind that on this site, people are in agreement with you on almost all problems. Whether problems in your country or any other country, including the US. Look at what they say about the US foreign policy. They are as critical of it as they are of Nazarbaev&#039;s policies. They are consistent. They  do make sense on top of that. Here&#039;s an example. A Kazakh blogger (megakhuimyak.livejournal.com) has written that each oblast has had to cough up $3 bln tenge to fund those fireworks. That seems like a lot of money. Wouldn&#039;t it be better spent on schools and hospitals, as Michael suggested? 

@Turgai: Your outrage at corruption and stupid decision making that permeates all of the former Soviet Union is understandable. But go easier on emotions and use the freed-up space for saying the substantive stuff. You do seem to know a lot. Put all that in writing and share with the rest of us. P.S. I don&#039;t know if you said anything insensitive. If you did, then see my suggestion to Michael. 

@Joshua. Like Michael, you have shown yourself very pro-Central Asian. And your posts suffer from the same weakness as Michael&#039;s. [I understand that it can help generate traffic but I don&#039;t really think that&#039;s your intention.] So, same advice here as to Michael. You are welcome. As I said, you owe me a beer. Also, given the range of subjects you are interested in, both on this blog and the other one, your writings inevitably suffer from another weakness: superficiality. The solution is to be more of a manager less of a writer. Focus on promoting Registan, including recruiting more writers. I think, it&#039;s a total shame that someone like Turgai only posts comments. It&#039;s also a shame that Nathan has been allowed to be a slacker as of late. Write less frequently, using the time to do more background reading. You are very welcome. Sure, two beers would be great. BTW, did you tell Turgay to shut up on that other discussion where he was multiple posting the same text? If not, you should. Just for the sake of integrity.

OK, folks, the ice in my Glenlivet is melting fast. I gotta go. Sorry if I&#039;ve delivered the truth in a package that grates people&#039;s feelings. Had to do that for the sake of clarity. No mean feat when you are writing while intoxicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, folks, looks like you need a fair and balanced referee. I&#8217;m qualified. I have completely overcome all my personal biases through heavy drinking. Yep, in vino veritas. Here&#8217;s some valuable advice. You can buy me a beer if/when our paths cross. </p>
<p>@Michael: You have shown yourself more pro-Kazakhstan than many people who live in that country. Anyone who takes even a cursory look through your writings on this blog and on your own blog will sense that.  Having said that, I&#8217;d like to quote a Russian poet who wrote:&#8221;It&#8217;s not given us to foretell how our words will echo.&#8221; Try to be more sensitive. Here are some examples. Some people from Louisiana may not like it if you describe their home as a swamp. And some folks from Harlem may not be happy if you describe their neighborhood as a ghetto. Same with folks who grew up on the Ishim. You don&#8217;t have to deliver the truth in a package that grates people&#8217;s feelings. Especially since such a constraint wouldn&#8217;t limit your ability to express yourself. </p>
<p>@Oldschoolboy: Keep in mind that on this site, people are in agreement with you on almost all problems. Whether problems in your country or any other country, including the US. Look at what they say about the US foreign policy. They are as critical of it as they are of Nazarbaev&#8217;s policies. They are consistent. They  do make sense on top of that. Here&#8217;s an example. A Kazakh blogger (megakhuimyak.livejournal.com) has written that each oblast has had to cough up $3 bln tenge to fund those fireworks. That seems like a lot of money. Wouldn&#8217;t it be better spent on schools and hospitals, as Michael suggested? </p>
<p>@Turgai: Your outrage at corruption and stupid decision making that permeates all of the former Soviet Union is understandable. But go easier on emotions and use the freed-up space for saying the substantive stuff. You do seem to know a lot. Put all that in writing and share with the rest of us. P.S. I don&#8217;t know if you said anything insensitive. If you did, then see my suggestion to Michael. </p>
<p>@Joshua. Like Michael, you have shown yourself very pro-Central Asian. And your posts suffer from the same weakness as Michael&#8217;s. [I understand that it can help generate traffic but I don't really think that's your intention.] So, same advice here as to Michael. You are welcome. As I said, you owe me a beer. Also, given the range of subjects you are interested in, both on this blog and the other one, your writings inevitably suffer from another weakness: superficiality. The solution is to be more of a manager less of a writer. Focus on promoting Registan, including recruiting more writers. I think, it&#8217;s a total shame that someone like Turgai only posts comments. It&#8217;s also a shame that Nathan has been allowed to be a slacker as of late. Write less frequently, using the time to do more background reading. You are very welcome. Sure, two beers would be great. BTW, did you tell Turgay to shut up on that other discussion where he was multiple posting the same text? If not, you should. Just for the sake of integrity.</p>
<p>OK, folks, the ice in my Glenlivet is melting fast. I gotta go. Sorry if I&#8217;ve delivered the truth in a package that grates people&#8217;s feelings. Had to do that for the sake of clarity. No mean feat when you are writing while intoxicated.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2008/06/21/pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-377385</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OldSchoolBoy:

Enough with the hostility. Neither Michael nor I nor Nathan could be honestly accused of hating Kazakhstan or wishing for its downfall. Criticizing the country is not &lt;i&gt;verboten&lt;/i&gt; for foreigners -- especially as an American, I appreciate everyone&#039;s right to be critical of one anothers&#039; governments. Pointing out the vast wealth disparity in Kazakhstan, and wondering why money is spent on celebrations but not practical measures like institution-building, education, children&#039;s health, or poverty alleviation, is pretty standard practice -- especially in the U.S., where that is the main substance of complaints against the Bush administration.

So, basically, either say something substantive (which you normally do) or SHUT UP. Crossing your arms and stomping your feet is just annoying at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldSchoolBoy:</p>
<p>Enough with the hostility. Neither Michael nor I nor Nathan could be honestly accused of hating Kazakhstan or wishing for its downfall. Criticizing the country is not <i>verboten</i> for foreigners &#8212; especially as an American, I appreciate everyone&#8217;s right to be critical of one anothers&#8217; governments. Pointing out the vast wealth disparity in Kazakhstan, and wondering why money is spent on celebrations but not practical measures like institution-building, education, children&#8217;s health, or poverty alleviation, is pretty standard practice &#8212; especially in the U.S., where that is the main substance of complaints against the Bush administration.</p>
<p>So, basically, either say something substantive (which you normally do) or SHUT UP. Crossing your arms and stomping your feet is just annoying at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hancock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[This comment is not intended to continue this discussion.  I meant what I said about Oldschool Boy getting the last word]

@ Turgai - oh, no, that long comment wasn&#039;t aimed at you.  We&#039;re in pretty close agreement on every topic mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[This comment is not intended to continue this discussion.  I meant what I said about Oldschool Boy getting the last word]</p>
<p>@ Turgai &#8211; oh, no, that long comment wasn&#8217;t aimed at you.  We&#8217;re in pretty close agreement on every topic mentioned.</p>
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