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		<title>By: Josh SN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh SN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unlikely that there will be any serious war crimes trials. 

There is a chance that Saakashvili was not baited, but planned some sort of &quot;quick resolution&quot; military strategy while most of the world&#039;s eyes were elsewhere.

If he was baited, he&#039;s a sucker, if he planned it, he&#039;s a it evil. Either way, I&#039;m taking him off my buddy list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unlikely that there will be any serious war crimes trials. </p>
<p>There is a chance that Saakashvili was not baited, but planned some sort of &#8220;quick resolution&#8221; military strategy while most of the world&#8217;s eyes were elsewhere.</p>
<p>If he was baited, he&#8217;s a sucker, if he planned it, he&#8217;s a it evil. Either way, I&#8217;m taking him off my buddy list.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mhc, I only said &quot;varying degrees of warmth.&quot; Shevardnadze was not &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; pro-Russian, and was definitely a Georgian nationalist. I suspect Russia would love to have someone like him or with his temperament back in the President&#039;s office. That is what I was getting at.

Kristy, you&#039;re right. That would be the prudent thing to do. But I suspect they will not be prudent, and Saakashvili will cling to power for a few more months trying to play the brave patriot-victim. Which actually may or may not be good—I agree with you that Saakashvili is finished and will have to step down, but to do so too early would actually be disastrous for Georgia.

Colleen, I think you&#039;re right, except for that last bullet point. I&#039;d be surprised if anyone is held accountable or even tried for any of the war crimes that have been alleged. That is because we still don&#039;t have independent verification of what happened in those areas. But in the end this war will amount to nothing, which is almost worse than if it had fostered some kind of fundamental change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mhc, I only said &#8220;varying degrees of warmth.&#8221; Shevardnadze was not <i>really</i> pro-Russian, and was definitely a Georgian nationalist. I suspect Russia would love to have someone like him or with his temperament back in the President&#8217;s office. That is what I was getting at.</p>
<p>Kristy, you&#8217;re right. That would be the prudent thing to do. But I suspect they will not be prudent, and Saakashvili will cling to power for a few more months trying to play the brave patriot-victim. Which actually may or may not be good—I agree with you that Saakashvili is finished and will have to step down, but to do so too early would actually be disastrous for Georgia.</p>
<p>Colleen, I think you&#8217;re right, except for that last bullet point. I&#8217;d be surprised if anyone is held accountable or even tried for any of the war crimes that have been alleged. That is because we still don&#8217;t have independent verification of what happened in those areas. But in the end this war will amount to nothing, which is almost worse than if it had fostered some kind of fundamental change.</p>
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		<title>By: colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is the solution that russia will agree to in the end of the day:

- all Georgian troops out of South Ossetia / Abkhazia

- Russian troops get our of Georgia proper, with some returning to South Ossetia / Abkhazia to resume their peacekeeping roles

- Peacekeeping is resumed under a &quot;no tolerance policy&quot;: any sort of Georgian provacations, including the disturbance of the local populations or arrest of Russian peacekeepers will bring Russian troops back into Georgia proper and Russian jets to the skies

- But, technically, South Ossetia / Abkhazia remain part of Georgia. Autonomous, independent regions

- The arrest and prosecution of military officers that lead the offensive that killed 2,000 Ossetian civilians for war crimes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is the solution that russia will agree to in the end of the day:</p>
<p>- all Georgian troops out of South Ossetia / Abkhazia</p>
<p>- Russian troops get our of Georgia proper, with some returning to South Ossetia / Abkhazia to resume their peacekeeping roles</p>
<p>- Peacekeeping is resumed under a &#8220;no tolerance policy&#8221;: any sort of Georgian provacations, including the disturbance of the local populations or arrest of Russian peacekeepers will bring Russian troops back into Georgia proper and Russian jets to the skies</p>
<p>- But, technically, South Ossetia / Abkhazia remain part of Georgia. Autonomous, independent regions</p>
<p>- The arrest and prosecution of military officers that lead the offensive that killed 2,000 Ossetian civilians for war crimes</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy Ironside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristy Ironside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Russia is smart, it will disengage, sit on what it has and allow Saakashvili to hang himself.  His political career is over: no matter how patriotism Georgians feel in this terrible situation, he has lost a devastating amount of credibility and he will not recover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Russia is smart, it will disengage, sit on what it has and allow Saakashvili to hang himself.  His political career is over: no matter how patriotism Georgians feel in this terrible situation, he has lost a devastating amount of credibility and he will not recover.</p>
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		<title>By: mhc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, no. The majority of Georgian opposition parties are very much nationalists. Whom you refer to are at best on the extreme margins and have no credibility in Georgian politics.

The question, really, is whether or not the Russians - even after kicking out Saakashvili - will permit the democratic process to continue forward. I&#039;d say no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, no. The majority of Georgian opposition parties are very much nationalists. Whom you refer to are at best on the extreme margins and have no credibility in Georgian politics.</p>
<p>The question, really, is whether or not the Russians &#8211; even after kicking out Saakashvili &#8211; will permit the democratic process to continue forward. I&#8217;d say no.</p>
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