The Rise of Citizen Propagandists

by Joshua Foust on 9/2/2008 · 9 comments

I have a new essay up at Columbia Journalism Review, this time discussing the role and rise of citizen propagandists, and why that’s such a big deal.

Although a lot of people were thinking clearly about the war in Georgia, these kinds of perspectives were lost in the flood of citizen propaganda coming from partisans of all stripes. Matthew Yglesias recently noted that this is to be expected—and he is right. Rather than negating the complaint about citizen propaganda, however, this gets at the heart of why it matters so much: not only does it specifically fail the reasons blogs rose to prominence in the first place, it is little more than the retrenchment of traditional media biases. As such, the reasons behind much of the push behind blogs are still fully valid, only now the gatekeepers have moved down a level, from traditional media to a layer of blogs just as beholden to personal, rather than institutional interests. The usual suspects pushing pre-spun views of what happened lends them zero value over traditional media sources—surely not what the original architects of the blogosphere ideals intended.

Anyway, I hope everyone enjoys. Comments are welcome.


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daskro September 2, 2008 at 12:31 pm

Citizen propagandists is such a harsh term. I’d prefer to call it what it is, trolls and fanboys regurgitating the same old arguments framed around a new conflict for the sake of argument. Although you point out for their own self-interest, that interest is not some material gain but instead some misplaced pride in winning the argument, endeavoring for the sake of “I got ya” moments. The issue is simply fallacious since these “propagandists,” much like the generalists of the news media, have no real expertise on the matter and thus have no more contribution to the dialogue than the “Boy cried wolf” personified pundit waiting for history to affirm himself.

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Dave Schuler September 2, 2008 at 4:38 pm

It seems to me that there are three or possibly four distinct things to be considered: citizen media, something that might be called citizen public diplomacy, citizen propaganda, and following daskro’s lead above, might be called “useful idiots”. I think that MJT would like to be in the first category but is actually in the last.

I hasten also to mention that private citizens in the U. S. aren’t the only ones getting into the act. Unless you believe that all of the Russian and Chinese commenters that jump on practically every post on either Russia or China are paid government agents, it looks to me as though there’s plenty of Chinese and Russian private propaganda going on.

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Cannoneer No. 4 September 2, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Those we label as propagandists have an opposing ideology to ours.

Those “sober voices” often drowned out by the overwhelming amount of citizen propagandists flooding the blogosphere must be voices pushing the stealth pro-Russian line that “that neither side is heroic, and neither is villainous—both have done nasty things in the last month, and both have to answer for the death and destruction they caused.”

Moral Relativism applied to the Russo-Georgian war is objectively pro-Russian. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. How Orwellian of you.

Some of us are on the side of the angels.

Some of us are openly on the side of the devil.

Some of us are secretly rooting for the devil, but aren’t very proud of ourselves for that.

And others of us think we’re too nuanced, too expert, too above the fray to believe in angels and devils.

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Joshua Foust September 2, 2008 at 5:27 pm

Ahh, the old standby “those who view this event differently are pro-evil” argument. We’ve heard it before, and those who use it are most often unwilling to admit or realize that Orwell, who originally coined the turn of phrase, later considered it a dishonest ad hominem.

To pretend that pointing out the spin and propaganda of both sides — nowhere do I excuse the Russians or Chinese who take to the internet, and if you read the actual essay you’ll see my primary source discusses Chinese citizen propaganda in depth — is in any way helping Russia is to willfully ignore the very complexities I’m trying to highlight.

Ahh, but you think I’m secretly rooting for the devil, as if I’ve at all excused Russia’s actions, demonized most of Georgia’s, or argued that this war was awesome and I’m happy to see Georgia dismembered and humiliated. You have a great command of the facts, seriously.

Orwell called pacifists “objectively pro-fascist” in an essay in Partisan Review in 1942. Yet two years later, he changed his tune. In “As I Please”, From Vol. III, p. 292 of Tribune, Dec. 8, 1944, he wrote:

We are told that it is only people’s objective actions that matter, and their subjective feelings are of no importance. Thus pacifists, by obstructing the war effort, are ‘objectively’ aiding the Nazis; and therefore the fact that they may be personally hostile to Fascism is irrelevant. I have been guilty of saying this myself more than once. The same argument is applied to Trotskyism. Trotskyists are often credited, at any rate by Communists, with being active and conscious agents of Hitler; but when you point out the many and obvious reasons why this is unlikely to be true, the ‘objectively’ line of talk is brought forward again. To criticize the Soviet Union helps Hitler: therefore ‘Trotskyism is Fascism’. And when this has been established, the accusation of conscious treachery is usually repeated.

This is not only dishonest; it also carries a severe penalty with it. If you disregard people’s motives, it becomes much harder to foresee their actions. For there are occasions when even the most misguided person can see the results of what he is doing…

In my opinion a few pacifists are inwardly pro-Nazi, and extremist left-wing parties will inevitably contain Fascist spies. The important thing is to discover which individuals are honest and which are not, and the usual blanket accusation merely makes this more difficult. The atmosphere of hatred in which controversy is conducted blinds people to considerations of this kind. To admit that an opponent might be both honest and intelligent is felt to be intolerable. It is more immediately satisfying to shout that he is a fool or a scoundrel, or both, than to find out what he is really like. It is this habit of mind, among other things, that has made political prediction in our time so remarkably unsuccessful.

Think twice next time you invoke Orwell.

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Cannoneer No. 4 September 2, 2008 at 6:52 pm

Yes, I should most definitely think twice before challenging your mastery of all things Orwellian. You sure showed me.

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Joshua Foust September 2, 2008 at 8:22 pm

Credibility matters, and quoting a statement the speaker himself finds dishonest and worthy of apology is pretty bad form.

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fnord September 3, 2008 at 2:07 am

Good essay. I would agree with Dave Schulers divisions into media, “public diplomacy”, propagandists and asshats/trolls, but I fail to see how M. totten can be construed as anything but a propagandist/tool. My definitions would run something like this:
*Citizen Media – Citizens who try to report from both sides without personal bias, fact-based reporting.

*Citizen Public Dimplomacy – Citizens who try to get the opinions of *both* parts on the table while noting the fact that these are the versions of the players.

*Citizen propaganda – Citizens who willingly act as mouthpieces for one of the parts in the conflict, getting all-expense paid trips to their homelands, writes articles with titles like “The *truth* about xxx” and such like.

* Trolls – People who just jump in and blather without any substance at all.

Hey, and Canoneer#4: I would suggest that the whole dichtonomy of Good vs. Evil, 0 vs. 1 is a false path to understanding the international scene. Please go and read about Georgias first president Zviad Gamsakhurdia and his approach to the Ossetian problem. I am aware of the fact that you US people see 15 years ago as ancient history, but in the Caucasus people have a tendency to remember.

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dcobserver September 3, 2008 at 9:50 am

Excellent article.

I wonder, however, if it is true that: ‘in war, truth matters more than ideology.’

History, including the current version, seems to suggest the opposite. Either way, the relationship between the two seems quite complex, glaring counter-examples notwithstanding, and their relative value seems highly dependent on context.

Cheers.

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Jens-Olaf September 3, 2008 at 10:51 pm

In the case of “citizen propagandists” about the Ossetia crisis the lacking of first hand bloggers are obvious. And for us the missing of first hand English language bloggers . There are translations done now by fellow bloggers mostly from Russian language but it is just dropping. Instead we see heated discussions for example about a short version of a Putin interview in the German tv channel ARD. Near to 1000 comments on the related blog site. It seems the real interest is not Ossetia but how we push our world views into the internet.

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