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	<title>Comments on: Promising Pakistan</title>
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		<title>By: fnord</title>
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		<dc:creator>fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting discussion would also be to what extent the fiancial crisis and the money spent on the bailout will affect the efforts in Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iraq the next 4 years... But I guess that is too much to ask...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting discussion would also be to what extent the fiancial crisis and the money spent on the bailout will affect the efforts in Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iraq the next 4 years&#8230; But I guess that is too much to ask&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ken, you&#039;ll get zero argument from me on this. I&#039;ve been tempted to wade into the presidential race by comparing their plans for the region, but frankly both demonstrate a childish understanding of the situation there (though I&#039;d wager Obama&#039;s is a teeny tiny bit less childish if only because he&#039;s not advocating &quot;THE SURGE&quot;).

But really, it&#039;s a fool&#039;s errand, to expect maturity in a presidential election. It&#039;s why I&#039;m tempted not to vote every four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ken, you&#8217;ll get zero argument from me on this. I&#8217;ve been tempted to wade into the presidential race by comparing their plans for the region, but frankly both demonstrate a childish understanding of the situation there (though I&#8217;d wager Obama&#8217;s is a teeny tiny bit less childish if only because he&#8217;s not advocating &#8220;THE SURGE&#8221;).</p>
<p>But really, it&#8217;s a fool&#8217;s errand, to expect maturity in a presidential election. It&#8217;s why I&#8217;m tempted not to vote every four years.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to interject politics here but the closing quote of the Army Times article struck me in relation to how this was discussed at the presidential debate.

From AT: &quot;“Even a missile strike requires the highest level of authority,” a special operations officer with Afghanistan experience said.

Asked who would have to sign off on a mission into Pakistan, he replied: “The president, no doubt in my mind. The president.”

One of the two candidates at the debate the other night is going to have to decide our future Pakistan strategy and they both talked right past the point in my opinion.  I thought the two candidates&#039; discussion of our raids/bombing of Pakistan during the debate was almost quizzical in their lack of understanding.

McCain was trying to lambaste Obama for daring to say out loud that we could dare attack Pakistan -- completely ignoring the fact that we have been attacking Pakistani territory repeatedly for years with hellfire missiles and just days before sent in JSOC troops on a raid, as if none of this had ever made the news, was a top secret, and Obama was violating some kind of secrecy.

In response, Obama restated his position that if known Al Qaeda leaders are in Pakistan we should be able to attack them --- completely ignoring that we have been recently attacking Taliban targets in Pakistan, not UBL or Zawahiri, and that our current policy it is dangerously destabilizing our relations with Pakistan because it directly violates their sovereignty as you rightly point out here.

I really don&#039;t want to get into a discussion about who is right or wrong here but I think it is high time both of these candidates had a real discussion about the current Administration&#039;s Pakistan policy with the facts that are already public and actually addressed the issue at hand instead of talking around it in circles.  The situation is not that secret and we deserve better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to interject politics here but the closing quote of the Army Times article struck me in relation to how this was discussed at the presidential debate.</p>
<p>From AT: &#8220;“Even a missile strike requires the highest level of authority,” a special operations officer with Afghanistan experience said.</p>
<p>Asked who would have to sign off on a mission into Pakistan, he replied: “The president, no doubt in my mind. The president.”</p>
<p>One of the two candidates at the debate the other night is going to have to decide our future Pakistan strategy and they both talked right past the point in my opinion.  I thought the two candidates&#8217; discussion of our raids/bombing of Pakistan during the debate was almost quizzical in their lack of understanding.</p>
<p>McCain was trying to lambaste Obama for daring to say out loud that we could dare attack Pakistan &#8212; completely ignoring the fact that we have been attacking Pakistani territory repeatedly for years with hellfire missiles and just days before sent in JSOC troops on a raid, as if none of this had ever made the news, was a top secret, and Obama was violating some kind of secrecy.</p>
<p>In response, Obama restated his position that if known Al Qaeda leaders are in Pakistan we should be able to attack them &#8212; completely ignoring that we have been recently attacking Taliban targets in Pakistan, not UBL or Zawahiri, and that our current policy it is dangerously destabilizing our relations with Pakistan because it directly violates their sovereignty as you rightly point out here.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t want to get into a discussion about who is right or wrong here but I think it is high time both of these candidates had a real discussion about the current Administration&#8217;s Pakistan policy with the facts that are already public and actually addressed the issue at hand instead of talking around it in circles.  The situation is not that secret and we deserve better.</p>
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