Comments on: Earthquakes & Elections, Reservoirs & Trouble in Kyrgyzstan http://registan.net/index.php/2008/10/06/earthquakes-and-elections/ Central Asia News -- All Central Asia, All The Time Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:53:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: WAITING FOR GODOT http://registan.net/index.php/2008/10/06/earthquakes-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-378569 WAITING FOR GODOT Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:00:57 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/10/06/earthquakes-and-elections/#comment-378569 MAROV, you have nothing to lose but your chains! MAROV, you have nothing to lose but your chains!

]]> By: Michael Hancock http://registan.net/index.php/2008/10/06/earthquakes-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-378564 Michael Hancock Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:11:16 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/10/06/earthquakes-and-elections/#comment-378564 Marof: I agree that the Tulip Revolution was a pale shadow of the actual regime changes in Ukraine and Georgia. Pushing Akaev out of office just to replace him with Bakiev, a more extreme version of the same thing... Again, there's no one to argue that Kyrgyzstan is better off today because of the Tulip Revolution. Things are actually worse than they have ever been. However, this "taking to the streets" might reap different results than you hope for. Will it be another North vs South affair? How bad do things have to get before the people in Naryn, Talas, and Bishkek agree to work together with Osh and Jalalabad? And will the Uzbek minorities in the south and Slavic minorities in the north be included at the demonstrations? Sorry to quote Lincoln, but a house divided unto itself cannot stand. Granted, it's been standing since 1991's independence, but equal representation under the law might bring about some of these changes. Well, what do I know, anyway? Viva la revolution! Marof: I agree that the Tulip Revolution was a pale shadow of the actual regime changes in Ukraine and Georgia. Pushing Akaev out of office just to replace him with Bakiev, a more extreme version of the same thing… Again, there’s no one to argue that Kyrgyzstan is better off today because of the Tulip Revolution. Things are actually worse than they have ever been.

However, this “taking to the streets” might reap different results than you hope for. Will it be another North vs South affair? How bad do things have to get before the people in Naryn, Talas, and Bishkek agree to work together with Osh and Jalalabad? And will the Uzbek minorities in the south and Slavic minorities in the north be included at the demonstrations?

Sorry to quote Lincoln, but a house divided unto itself cannot stand. Granted, it’s been standing since 1991′s independence, but equal representation under the law might bring about some of these changes.

Well, what do I know, anyway? Viva la revolution!

]]> By: Marof http://registan.net/index.php/2008/10/06/earthquakes-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-378562 Marof Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:54:07 +0000 http://www.registan.net/index.php/2008/10/06/earthquakes-and-elections/#comment-378562 Kyrgyzstan is still waiting for it's first real revolution. A true revolution is when the majority of citizens in a country stand up and say....."We have had enough of the corruption, we have had enough of being treated like trash when we go to your government offices to get documents or visas. We have had enough of seeing members of parliment driving new luxury cars and living in very expensive new homes they build, while their salaries can hardly support this. All this, while the rest of us don't even have electricity. We are tired of seeing politicans relatives get away with whatever crime they decide to commit! We are tired of unmet promises by the president. He told us all to buy coal and black oil for this winter. And then two weeks ago, the government shut down all the coal producing mining plants, citing enviormental issues. Could this not have waited until spring time, so elderly people would not die this winter from not being able to afford to buy coal? Shutting down the mines has resulted in their wanted result of driving up the price of coal for the second hand traders of coal. We are tired of your not caring for the elderly and the poor in our country. We are tired of the election process being so corrupt, that for the first time since 1991 the international observers didn't even want to attend and monitor our election....the elections are considered a joke now with the current regime stacking the deck so they will be insulated from demonstrations. We are tired, but together we are going to put an end to your abuse of office and power. We will take to the streets in numbers you have never seen before. We will shut down your government and we will do it by peaceful means, because there are more of us than there is of your legalized gangsters!" This is a true revolution. What happened in the tulip revolution was, simply one regime hiring enough thugs from Osh to come to Bishkek and take over from the other regime. And in the process they looted and destroyed as many businesses as they could. Why wait until the spring time for the revolution? How many more people need to die for Kyrgyzstanis to finally WAKE UP and have a true revolution for the common people of Kyrgyzstan? Kyrgyzstan is still waiting for it’s first real revolution. A true revolution is when the majority of citizens in a country stand up and say…..”We have had enough of the corruption, we have had enough of being treated like trash when we go to your government offices to get documents or visas. We have had enough of seeing members of parliment driving new luxury cars and living in very expensive new homes they build, while their salaries can hardly support this. All this, while the rest of us don’t even have electricity. We are tired of seeing politicans relatives get away with whatever crime they decide to commit! We are tired of unmet promises by the president. He told us all to buy coal and black oil for this winter. And then two weeks ago, the government shut down all the coal producing mining plants, citing enviormental issues. Could this not have waited until spring time, so elderly people would not die this winter from not being able to afford to buy coal? Shutting down the mines has resulted in their wanted result of driving up the price of coal for the second hand traders of coal. We are tired of your not caring for the elderly and the poor in our country. We are tired of the election process being so corrupt, that for the first time since 1991 the international observers didn’t even want to attend and monitor our election….the elections are considered a joke now with the current regime stacking the deck so they will be insulated from demonstrations. We are tired, but together we are going to put an end to your abuse of office and power. We will take to the streets in numbers you have never seen before. We will shut down your government and we will do it by peaceful means, because there are more of us than there is of your legalized gangsters!” This is a true revolution. What happened in the tulip revolution was, simply one regime hiring enough thugs from Osh to come to Bishkek and take over from the other regime. And in the process they looted and destroyed as many businesses as they could. Why wait until the spring time for the revolution? How many more people need to die for Kyrgyzstanis to finally WAKE UP and have a true revolution for the common people of Kyrgyzstan?

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