<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: New Media and Modern War</title>
	<atom:link href="http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/</link>
	<description>Central Asia News -- All Central Asia, All The Time</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:53:13 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: JensonSDaniel</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-380368</link>
		<dc:creator>JensonSDaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 20:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-380368</guid>
		<description>I thought El Salvador was held up as the example for COIN success and lessons learned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought El Salvador was held up as the example for COIN success and lessons learned.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Che</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379693</link>
		<dc:creator>Che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379693</guid>
		<description>what, no mention of me? Che G?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what, no mention of me? Che G?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Che</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379692</link>
		<dc:creator>Che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379692</guid>
		<description>what, now mention of me? Che G?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what, now mention of me? Che G?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zenpundit</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379677</link>
		<dc:creator>zenpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379677</guid>
		<description>Hi Josh,

Yes, and Bernard Fall too. Classic texts. Not laziness so much as looking for one&#039;s car keys under the streetlamp because the light is better there. :)

However, I think there is an important difference between COIN in one&#039;s own country and attempting it in somebody else&#039;s. The former is literally a survival strategy because you have no place else to go and the second is an exit strategy.

That said, your point that there are things to learn about the successes and mistakes made in COIN in other places is valid. The history experiences have not been exhaustively mined and disseminated yet. How many western COIN experts study the Basmachi Revolt? Not many, unless they were previously Soviet or Turkic specialists.

The School of the Americas taught COIN after the fashion of those times but the overriding purpose of that institution, I would argue, was the cultivation of career-long mil to mil ties between Latin American officer corps and the U.S. Army.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,</p>
<p>Yes, and Bernard Fall too. Classic texts. Not laziness so much as looking for one&#8217;s car keys under the streetlamp because the light is better there. <img src='http://registan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, I think there is an important difference between COIN in one&#8217;s own country and attempting it in somebody else&#8217;s. The former is literally a survival strategy because you have no place else to go and the second is an exit strategy.</p>
<p>That said, your point that there are things to learn about the successes and mistakes made in COIN in other places is valid. The history experiences have not been exhaustively mined and disseminated yet. How many western COIN experts study the Basmachi Revolt? Not many, unless they were previously Soviet or Turkic specialists.</p>
<p>The School of the Americas taught COIN after the fashion of those times but the overriding purpose of that institution, I would argue, was the cultivation of career-long mil to mil ties between Latin American officer corps and the U.S. Army.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379676</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379676</guid>
		<description>Mark, that&#039;s a great list. But you are basically accusing the COIN community of being lazy. We don&#039;t have to go back to the 20&#039;s or 30&#039;s. Why not study the ongoing saga in Columbia or Mexico? The many Marxist insurgencies in Central America? I seem to recall (without knowing much about them) that we created the School of the Americas specifically to help other countries DO counterinsurgency.

Then there is Nepal, Sri Lanka, India, and even -- yes -- Pakistan. To say nothing of China&#039;s continuing inability to successfully conquer Tibet. 

That last one is stretching the COIN thing a lot, but the point is there is a huge variety of insurgencies, and their relative success and failures, to study. But we still default back to Galula talking about Algeria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, that&#8217;s a great list. But you are basically accusing the COIN community of being lazy. We don&#8217;t have to go back to the 20&#8242;s or 30&#8242;s. Why not study the ongoing saga in Columbia or Mexico? The many Marxist insurgencies in Central America? I seem to recall (without knowing much about them) that we created the School of the Americas specifically to help other countries DO counterinsurgency.</p>
<p>Then there is Nepal, Sri Lanka, India, and even &#8212; yes &#8212; Pakistan. To say nothing of China&#8217;s continuing inability to successfully conquer Tibet. </p>
<p>That last one is stretching the COIN thing a lot, but the point is there is a huge variety of insurgencies, and their relative success and failures, to study. But we still default back to Galula talking about Algeria.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zenpundit</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379675</link>
		<dc:creator>zenpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379675</guid>
		<description>&quot;why do all these COIN theorists taking over the Obama Pentagon and filling up CNAS and clogging the COIN blogs think the only counterinsurgencies to study took place in British Malaya, Algeria, and Vietnam?&quot;

Great question. In my view the reasons for that are:

1. Largesse of primary sources, secondary literature in English and living eyewitnesses who can communicate in the same. Secondarily in French, a commonly taught FL in American public education.

2.  Those examples are of foreign armies executing COIN abroad or assisting locals to do so. Yes, the French considered Algeria to be la patrie but a sizable number of Algerians said &quot;Non&quot;.

3. Some old school counterinsurgency tactics executed by Latin American colonels or French or Belgian commandants in the 20&#039;s and 30&#039;s or German junkers in Africa prior to WWI are not going to fly, morally speaking, in modern 21st century democracies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why do all these COIN theorists taking over the Obama Pentagon and filling up CNAS and clogging the COIN blogs think the only counterinsurgencies to study took place in British Malaya, Algeria, and Vietnam?&#8221;</p>
<p>Great question. In my view the reasons for that are:</p>
<p>1. Largesse of primary sources, secondary literature in English and living eyewitnesses who can communicate in the same. Secondarily in French, a commonly taught FL in American public education.</p>
<p>2.  Those examples are of foreign armies executing COIN abroad or assisting locals to do so. Yes, the French considered Algeria to be la patrie but a sizable number of Algerians said &#8220;Non&#8221;.</p>
<p>3. Some old school counterinsurgency tactics executed by Latin American colonels or French or Belgian commandants in the 20&#8242;s and 30&#8242;s or German junkers in Africa prior to WWI are not going to fly, morally speaking, in modern 21st century democracies.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: UNRR</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379672</link>
		<dc:creator>UNRR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379672</guid>
		<description>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 3/3/2009, at &lt;a href=&quot;http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Unreligious Right&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 3/3/2009, at <a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Unreligious Right</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: stephen / globalpundit.org</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379665</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen / globalpundit.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379665</guid>
		<description>thanks. enjoyed this piece very much. after years of dwelling in the frustrating cesspool of corporate mainstream newsmedia - and knowing full well the job we were doing was garbage (not to mention the constant censuring and censoring I experienced when bring unreported and important stories to the table), it took a layoff - in the decimated North American media market - to make me realize so much is still a work in progress.

you bring up some excellent points and topics to explore. I am glad I found your site.

here&#039;s hoping i land on my feet somehow - without having to resort to staying in North America and taking a PR job or something equally as execrable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks. enjoyed this piece very much. after years of dwelling in the frustrating cesspool of corporate mainstream newsmedia &#8211; and knowing full well the job we were doing was garbage (not to mention the constant censuring and censoring I experienced when bring unreported and important stories to the table), it took a layoff &#8211; in the decimated North American media market &#8211; to make me realize so much is still a work in progress.</p>
<p>you bring up some excellent points and topics to explore. I am glad I found your site.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s hoping i land on my feet somehow &#8211; without having to resort to staying in North America and taking a PR job or something equally as execrable.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379664</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379664</guid>
		<description>I am equally frustrated by how the slow pace of academic writing helps lead it to irrelevance most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am equally frustrated by how the slow pace of academic writing helps lead it to irrelevance most of the time.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TCHe</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/comment-page-1/#comment-379662</link>
		<dc:creator>TCHe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.registan.net/index.php/2009/03/01/new-media-and-modern-war/#comment-379662</guid>
		<description>You are so preaching to the choir. Obviously I&#039;m a big fan of all this internetz stuff, Think Tank 2.0, and so on. (I&#039;ve been even playing with the thought of starting a new blog for a while now, I think it&#039;s time to do so). I downloaded the piece from SWJ but haven&#039;t looked at it in detail so far.

I learned a lot of details about AFG, for example, by reading various blogs, including Registan. The problem&#039;s rather that there&#039;s too much information (one reason why I&#039;ce been slow to put Twitter to much use so far).
Of course, one has to try to stay out of the echo chambers as good as possible and deliberately include the stuff one disagrees with (at times that&#039;s harder than one thinks).

But I seriously wouldn&#039;t want to miss it anymore. Done right you&#039;ll so much more than by reading any number of newspapers.

OK, not really deep thoughts here but I&#039;m tired ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so preaching to the choir. Obviously I&#8217;m a big fan of all this internetz stuff, Think Tank 2.0, and so on. (I&#8217;ve been even playing with the thought of starting a new blog for a while now, I think it&#8217;s time to do so). I downloaded the piece from SWJ but haven&#8217;t looked at it in detail so far.</p>
<p>I learned a lot of details about AFG, for example, by reading various blogs, including Registan. The problem&#8217;s rather that there&#8217;s too much information (one reason why I&#8217;ce been slow to put Twitter to much use so far).<br />
Of course, one has to try to stay out of the echo chambers as good as possible and deliberately include the stuff one disagrees with (at times that&#8217;s harder than one thinks).</p>
<p>But I seriously wouldn&#8217;t want to miss it anymore. Done right you&#8217;ll so much more than by reading any number of newspapers.</p>
<p>OK, not really deep thoughts here but I&#8217;m tired <img src='http://registan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

