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		<title>By: Exum: &#8220;Introducing the Afghanistan Strategy Dialogue&#8221; &#171; Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exum: &#8220;Introducing the Afghanistan Strategy Dialogue&#8221; &#171; Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] “Let Us Have Some Perspective, Please“, Joshua Foust, Registan, 23 April 2009 — A brief history of insurgencies in Pakistan. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why are we fighting in Pakistan? &#171; Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why are we fighting in Pakistan? &#171; Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Let Us Have Some Perspective, Please&#8220;, Joshua Foust, Registan.net, 23 April 2009 &#8212; A brief history of insurgencies in Pakistan. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve LeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve LeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, I do think this is different in that it challenges the foundation of the country -- the groups in society, in law, in politics and the military that have run Pakistan since its founding. It is also different in that it won&#039;t be a simple, self-contained shift of philosophy; the AQ Khan debacle could seem quaint in terms of the ramifications. As I&#039;ve said on my own blog, I steer away from alarmism, but I do see the Taliban advances -- and the support they have found in the population and, it seems, in the military -- as extremely worrying. It&#039;s not business as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, I do think this is different in that it challenges the foundation of the country &#8212; the groups in society, in law, in politics and the military that have run Pakistan since its founding. It is also different in that it won&#8217;t be a simple, self-contained shift of philosophy; the AQ Khan debacle could seem quaint in terms of the ramifications. As I&#8217;ve said on my own blog, I steer away from alarmism, but I do see the Taliban advances &#8212; and the support they have found in the population and, it seems, in the military &#8212; as extremely worrying. It&#8217;s not business as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
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		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thunderrun.us/2009/04/from-front-04242009.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From the Front: 04/24/2009 &lt;/a&gt; News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/04/23/let-us-have-some-perspective-please/comment-page-1/#comment-380075</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I do not count you among the part-time pundits, since you&#039;ve actually lived there and know what you&#039;re talking about. I didn&#039;t mean to compare Swat and Buner to the 90s, but rather to the several other times radical extremists have emerged from these areas to pose an Islamic challenge to a relatively secular central government. Pakistan still has not yet deployed as many troops as the British did.

Which is where I&#039;m going with that. I only mention the 1990s to note that the figures and issue we&#039;re facing isn&#039;t new or sudden (in fact, that is the point of Hussein&#039;s book, which is quite good).

Lastly, I did not say Benazir created the Taliban. I said the ISI was spurring them on to power in Afghanistan—which is a reasonable thing to say given their role in opening up the arms cache at Spin Boldak that enabled them to retake Kandahar, as well as the subsequent support ISI gave them.

But getting back to whether the Taliban pose an existential threat to the state or not... well, I bet you that you&#039;ll see a much more vigorous response to them now that they&#039;re advancing toward the capital. When it was just crazies in the boondocks, I can see how some particularly cut off elites in Islamabad might have written them off (and in fact, many Pakistanis I&#039;ve spoken to have expressed frustration that the leftists in their cities haven&#039;t seem alarmed by the Taliban&#039;s advance until now). 

But really, is this any greater threat than the post-Partition riots, the 1971 war, or any number of vastly more tragic and deadly events in Pakistan&#039;s short history? I don&#039;t see the existential threat yet, which is why I&#039;m saying, yes, let us do what we need to to blunt the Taliban&#039;s advance and roll them back; but all the talk about losing nuclear weapons is just way too premature right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I do not count you among the part-time pundits, since you&#8217;ve actually lived there and know what you&#8217;re talking about. I didn&#8217;t mean to compare Swat and Buner to the 90s, but rather to the several other times radical extremists have emerged from these areas to pose an Islamic challenge to a relatively secular central government. Pakistan still has not yet deployed as many troops as the British did.</p>
<p>Which is where I&#8217;m going with that. I only mention the 1990s to note that the figures and issue we&#8217;re facing isn&#8217;t new or sudden (in fact, that is the point of Hussein&#8217;s book, which is quite good).</p>
<p>Lastly, I did not say Benazir created the Taliban. I said the ISI was spurring them on to power in Afghanistan—which is a reasonable thing to say given their role in opening up the arms cache at Spin Boldak that enabled them to retake Kandahar, as well as the subsequent support ISI gave them.</p>
<p>But getting back to whether the Taliban pose an existential threat to the state or not&#8230; well, I bet you that you&#8217;ll see a much more vigorous response to them now that they&#8217;re advancing toward the capital. When it was just crazies in the boondocks, I can see how some particularly cut off elites in Islamabad might have written them off (and in fact, many Pakistanis I&#8217;ve spoken to have expressed frustration that the leftists in their cities haven&#8217;t seem alarmed by the Taliban&#8217;s advance until now). </p>
<p>But really, is this any greater threat than the post-Partition riots, the 1971 war, or any number of vastly more tragic and deadly events in Pakistan&#8217;s short history? I don&#8217;t see the existential threat yet, which is why I&#8217;m saying, yes, let us do what we need to to blunt the Taliban&#8217;s advance and roll them back; but all the talk about losing nuclear weapons is just way too premature right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve LeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve LeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, count me among the part-time pundits. What&#039;s going on now in Swat and especially Buner is qualitatively different from the 1990s; they simply are not comparable. 

Also, Benazir did not create the Taliban, nor set them on the road to power. 

Otherwise, nice history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, count me among the part-time pundits. What&#8217;s going on now in Swat and especially Buner is qualitatively different from the 1990s; they simply are not comparable. </p>
<p>Also, Benazir did not create the Taliban, nor set them on the road to power. </p>
<p>Otherwise, nice history.</p>
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		<title>By: Transitionland</title>
		<link>http://registan.net/index.php/2009/04/23/let-us-have-some-perspective-please/comment-page-1/#comment-380070</link>
		<dc:creator>Transitionland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herbal Essence&#039;s &quot;Long Term Relationship&quot; conditioner is my best guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herbal Essence&#8217;s &#8220;Long Term Relationship&#8221; conditioner is my best guess.</p>
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