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	<title>Comments on: Kill the Journalists, &#8220;The killers without guns,&#8221; Ralph Peters Says</title>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prove wrong anything you assume I&#039;ve assumed.</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, the problem with working from emotion above reason is you miss important details:

You assume that calling Ralph Peters morally repugnant for advocating the murder of journalists who don&#039;t report propaganda is &#039;micromanaging individual actions on the field of battle&quot;;
You assume I am &quot;thwarting victory&quot; by pointing that out;
You assume I am an academic;
You assume I have never been in combat.

Assumption is a dangerous game, Dennis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, the problem with working from emotion above reason is you miss important details:</p>
<p>You assume that calling Ralph Peters morally repugnant for advocating the murder of journalists who don&#8217;t report propaganda is &#8216;micromanaging individual actions on the field of battle&#8221;;<br />
You assume I am &#8220;thwarting victory&#8221; by pointing that out;<br />
You assume I am an academic;<br />
You assume I have never been in combat.</p>
<p>Assumption is a dangerous game, Dennis.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dennis, who says I’m staying out of the way?&quot;

     You&#039;re not; that&#039;s the problem.

&quot;And since when were means irrelevant to the ends?&quot;

     Micromanaging individual actions on the field of battle, with criminal prosecution hovering over every decision, a la Chessani, has a tendency to cause hesitation at crucial moments.  Maybe having been an actual combatant would help you understand the point.  But, as an academic, it&#039;s just too easy to talk your way through a fight.  Now be honest about your own ends, vis a vis thwarting victory, and the means you use to pursue them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dennis, who says I’m staying out of the way?&#8221;</p>
<p>     You&#8217;re not; that&#8217;s the problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;And since when were means irrelevant to the ends?&#8221;</p>
<p>     Micromanaging individual actions on the field of battle, with criminal prosecution hovering over every decision, a la Chessani, has a tendency to cause hesitation at crucial moments.  Maybe having been an actual combatant would help you understand the point.  But, as an academic, it&#8217;s just too easy to talk your way through a fight.  Now be honest about your own ends, vis a vis thwarting victory, and the means you use to pursue them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, who says I&#039;m staying out of the way? And since when were means irrelevant to the ends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, who says I&#8217;m staying out of the way? And since when were means irrelevant to the ends?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, yes—victory at any cost is a virtue!&quot;

Sarcasm aside, this comment reveals a very silly attitude, but one that 
infects the liberal mindset.  Entering a war with less than a determination to
win is suicidal.  When Sherman said that &quot;war is all hell,&quot; he didn&#039;t just
describe the cosmetic appearance of war; he described the effect that must be
created by any army intent on winning.  It must create hell to win.  
If it isn&#039;t hell, the reluctant combatant might as well stay home.

That said, the author above apparently believes that it is better to lose a wary
and, I suppose, a nation, than to be seen as dirty.  The rules of engagement
imposed by liberal political regimes generally reflect this mindset, and, too
often, result in unnecessary deaths of our own.  Conveniently, the author 
doesn&#039;t address this sad fact.  Often, those rules are made in a desire to 
please the sideline critics like this author.  Thus, this type of media busybody
does, in fact, kill friendly warriors.

All of this is okay, as long as confused faux moralists like the author stay out
of the way while a war is being fought.  But it&#039;s never enough just to be a
media hack; they must see themselves as important media hacks.  And the
measure by which they gauge their importance, how much they can 
stymie the war effort, almost always results in friendly deaths.

It&#039;s worth noting something else Ralph Peters observed:  The use of the pen is an indulgence we can afford only because better men and women grip the sword on our behalf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, yes—victory at any cost is a virtue!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sarcasm aside, this comment reveals a very silly attitude, but one that<br />
infects the liberal mindset.  Entering a war with less than a determination to<br />
win is suicidal.  When Sherman said that &#8220;war is all hell,&#8221; he didn&#8217;t just<br />
describe the cosmetic appearance of war; he described the effect that must be<br />
created by any army intent on winning.  It must create hell to win.<br />
If it isn&#8217;t hell, the reluctant combatant might as well stay home.</p>
<p>That said, the author above apparently believes that it is better to lose a wary<br />
and, I suppose, a nation, than to be seen as dirty.  The rules of engagement<br />
imposed by liberal political regimes generally reflect this mindset, and, too<br />
often, result in unnecessary deaths of our own.  Conveniently, the author<br />
doesn&#8217;t address this sad fact.  Often, those rules are made in a desire to<br />
please the sideline critics like this author.  Thus, this type of media busybody<br />
does, in fact, kill friendly warriors.</p>
<p>All of this is okay, as long as confused faux moralists like the author stay out<br />
of the way while a war is being fought.  But it&#8217;s never enough just to be a<br />
media hack; they must see themselves as important media hacks.  And the<br />
measure by which they gauge their importance, how much they can<br />
stymie the war effort, almost always results in friendly deaths.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth noting something else Ralph Peters observed:  The use of the pen is an indulgence we can afford only because better men and women grip the sword on our behalf.</p>
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		<title>By: zenpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 04:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peters introduction to The Book of War, an essay on Sun Tzu and von Clausewitz is excellent and entirely free of hyperbolic hysterics.

I second Fabius Maximus. Peters newspaper columns often irritate me but his professional work is first rate -  and I&#039;m pretty sure that was the case with his work as an intelligence officer. 

I view the &quot;war god&quot; rhetoric that Peters frequently uses in his columns as unserious shtick designed to get attention, speaking gigs and satisfy his employer, the Post. His AFJ pieces, while aggressive, are not exercises in lunacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peters introduction to The Book of War, an essay on Sun Tzu and von Clausewitz is excellent and entirely free of hyperbolic hysterics.</p>
<p>I second Fabius Maximus. Peters newspaper columns often irritate me but his professional work is first rate &#8211;  and I&#8217;m pretty sure that was the case with his work as an intelligence officer. </p>
<p>I view the &#8220;war god&#8221; rhetoric that Peters frequently uses in his columns as unserious shtick designed to get attention, speaking gigs and satisfy his employer, the Post. His AFJ pieces, while aggressive, are not exercises in lunacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 23:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If anyone could point me to something that he’s written that was worth a shit, I’d appreciate it.&quot;

Many of his professional publications are IMO excelent.  To cite just one of many:

“The Human Terrain of Urban Operations“, Ralph Peters, Parameters, Spring 2000

URL:
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/parameters/00spring/peters.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If anyone could point me to something that he’s written that was worth a shit, I’d appreciate it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many of his professional publications are IMO excelent.  To cite just one of many:</p>
<p>“The Human Terrain of Urban Operations“, Ralph Peters, Parameters, Spring 2000</p>
<p>URL:<br />
<a href="http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/parameters/00spring/peters.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/parameters/00spring/peters.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mewett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Mewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, wtf is this?

&lt;em&gt;The core world of Islam, stretching from Casablanca to the Hindu Kush...&lt;/em&gt;

...and leaving out almost 700 million Muslims in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and Indonesia? Seems like an odd definition of &quot;core world&quot; to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, wtf is this?</p>
<p><em>The core world of Islam, stretching from Casablanca to the Hindu Kush&#8230;</em></p>
<p>&#8230;and leaving out almost 700 million Muslims in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and Indonesia? Seems like an odd definition of &#8220;core world&#8221; to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mewett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Mewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph Peters is an insufferable hack of the highest order. If anyone could point me to something that he&#039;s written that was worth a shit, I&#039;d appreciate it. It seems his entire objective is to be inflammatory and boil up the blood of those readers who don&#039;t know any better.

Josh, I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve read Nick Schmidle&#039;s book yet, but I was STAGGERED to find Peters cited in the acknowledgments. I will never understand how or why sane people occasionally cite him as &quot;provocative&quot; or &quot;thoughtful.&quot; Sure, he&#039;s provocative, because the stuff he writes is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph Peters is an insufferable hack of the highest order. If anyone could point me to something that he&#8217;s written that was worth a shit, I&#8217;d appreciate it. It seems his entire objective is to be inflammatory and boil up the blood of those readers who don&#8217;t know any better.</p>
<p>Josh, I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve read Nick Schmidle&#8217;s book yet, but I was STAGGERED to find Peters cited in the acknowledgments. I will never understand how or why sane people occasionally cite him as &#8220;provocative&#8221; or &#8220;thoughtful.&#8221; Sure, he&#8217;s provocative, because the stuff he writes is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 08:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  

We have been at war for 8 years.  That has to affect us, probably in unpleasant ways.  I supect the growing blood-thirst seen in Peters and others is just the first visible effects.  War, like all powerful social forces, shapes us -- often in unexpected ways.  Slow to become seen and long-lasting ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  </p>
<p>We have been at war for 8 years.  That has to affect us, probably in unpleasant ways.  I supect the growing blood-thirst seen in Peters and others is just the first visible effects.  War, like all powerful social forces, shapes us &#8212; often in unexpected ways.  Slow to become seen and long-lasting ways.</p>
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