Comments on: Fethullahcilar Education and the Future of Central Asia http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/ Central Asia News -- All Central Asia, All The Time Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:41:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ahad_Abdurahmon http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383302 Ahad_Abdurahmon Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:24:33 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383302 Even if I am misinformed, it does not mean that you can equate a religion of billions to a virus, jerk. Even if I am misinformed, it does not mean that you can equate a religion of billions to a virus, jerk.

]]> By: Toryalay Shirzay http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383300 Toryalay Shirzay Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:23:22 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383300 @Ahad, nonsense! you are seriously misinformed. @Ahad, nonsense! you are seriously misinformed.

]]> By: Ahad_Abdurahmon http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383299 Ahad_Abdurahmon Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:59:38 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383299 Toryalay Shirzay, I have nothing to do with Fethullahcilar and other groups who politicize Islam, but I think you MUST be careful with your word choice when talking about a religion in which billions of people have faith in!!! Democracy was flexible enough to accommodate lutheran, protestant, catholic, etc types of christianity, mormonism, judaism including the most extreme variations of it, buddhism in east asia. Most of these religions were and some them still are in serious ideological conflict with the concept of democracy. Orthodox jewish prohibit even today watching tv, amish people refuse using electronics at all, mormons are allow to marry many women, nevertheless, they are not preventing democracy to accommodate them. Why shouldn't we believe that it can accommodate people who have faith in Islam? What we have today: wahhabism, taliban, al qaeda, etc are not ISLAM!!! They are political movements shaped, funded, and nurtured by the British and American secrete services at different times in history!!! They only use Islam as a source of legitimacy and penetration! They are monsters turned against their masters! British invented and nurtured wahhabism against the Ottomans, Americans invented and nurtured al qaeda and taliban against the Soviets! Toryalay Shirzay,
I have nothing to do with Fethullahcilar and other groups who politicize Islam, but I think you MUST be careful with your word choice when talking about a religion in which billions of people have faith in!!!
Democracy was flexible enough to accommodate lutheran, protestant, catholic, etc types of christianity, mormonism, judaism including the most extreme variations of it, buddhism in east asia.
Most of these religions were and some them still are in serious ideological conflict with the concept of democracy. Orthodox jewish prohibit even today watching tv, amish people refuse using electronics at all, mormons are allow to marry many women, nevertheless, they are not preventing democracy to accommodate them.
Why shouldn’t we believe that it can accommodate people who have faith in Islam?
What we have today: wahhabism, taliban, al qaeda, etc are not ISLAM!!! They are political movements shaped, funded, and nurtured by the British and American secrete services at different times in history!!! They only use Islam as a source of legitimacy and penetration! They are monsters turned against their masters! British invented and nurtured wahhabism against the Ottomans, Americans invented and nurtured al qaeda and taliban against the Soviets!

]]> By: Turgai Sangar http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383295 Turgai Sangar Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:32:23 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383295 Hasn't the obsession with 'Islamism' among some, more to do with the fact that they can not face the bankrupcy and failure of the ideological currents that they champion? Hasn’t the obsession with ‘Islamism’ among some, more to do with the fact that they can not face the bankrupcy and failure of the ideological currents that they champion?

]]> By: Al Sunna http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383263 Al Sunna Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:44:19 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383263 Assalam walakum, This blog is a very nice blog, I have found it very beneficial to know more about islam. Thanks for sharing the information. Assalam walakum,

This blog is a very nice blog, I have found it very beneficial to know more about islam. Thanks for sharing the information.

]]> By: Toryalay Shirzay http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383229 Toryalay Shirzay Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:12:17 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383229 LET'S remember that Turkey played a major role in spreading the islamic virus around the world and for many reasons ,Turkey seems to be playing this again and this must be of great concern to freedom loving persons.The revival and spread of islamism under any guise as in Fethullahcilar is an omen the central Asians and others cannot afford to ignore or take it lightly. LET’S remember that Turkey played a major role in spreading the islamic virus around the world and for many reasons ,Turkey seems to be playing this again and this must be of great concern to freedom loving persons.The revival and spread of islamism under any guise as in Fethullahcilar is an omen the central Asians and others cannot afford to ignore or take it lightly.

]]> By: Sevket Zaimoglu http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383211 Sevket Zaimoglu Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:11:16 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383211 "Let’s see if this one takes root at all." Well, it has already taken root, if you remember that these schools began to be opened in the ex-Soviet Union Turkish republics from 1991 onwards. In 1998, I traveled throughout the region. At the Bishkek bus station, I was greeted by a young fellow named Cholpon Ata, who was a graduate of these schools, and who spoke Anatolian Turkish fluently. There are many more graduates like him who have started playing an important role in their countries. “Let’s see if this one takes root at all.”

Well, it has already taken root, if you remember that these schools began to be opened in the ex-Soviet Union Turkish republics from 1991 onwards. In 1998, I traveled throughout the region. At the Bishkek bus station, I was greeted by a young fellow named Cholpon Ata, who was a graduate of these schools, and who spoke Anatolian Turkish fluently. There are many more graduates like him who have started playing an important role in their countries.

]]> By: Laurence Jarvik http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383191 Laurence Jarvik Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:16:18 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383191 Or perhaps with a critical gaze? Obviously, one source of appeal of the USSR in Central Asia was that it took the veil off women, and let Central Asia enter the modern world through Communism...which is why that episode it makes up 1/3 of Dziga Vertov's propaganda film: "Three Songs of Lenin." Believe it or not, there are people living in Central Asia who don't want to live under Islamism. Not to mention that I don't think Russia or China would ever permit it. A policy doomed to failure is by definition a mistake (as was Enver Pasha's doomed crusade). According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_Gülen): "In 1998 Gülen emigrated to the United States, ostensibly for health problems (he suffers from diabetes) but arguably in anticipation of being tried over remarks which seemed to favor an Islamic state.[15]" If even the Turkish government found his teachings too extreme, why should Americans to support him? Or perhaps with a critical gaze?

Obviously, one source of appeal of the USSR in Central Asia was that it took the veil off women, and let Central Asia enter the modern world through Communism…which is why that episode it makes up 1/3 of Dziga Vertov’s propaganda film: “Three Songs of Lenin.” Believe it or not, there are people living in Central Asia who don’t want to live under Islamism. Not to mention that I don’t think Russia or China would ever permit it. A policy doomed to failure is by definition a mistake (as was Enver Pasha’s doomed crusade).

According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_Gülen): “In 1998 Gülen emigrated to the United States, ostensibly for health problems (he suffers from diabetes) but arguably in anticipation of being tried over remarks which seemed to favor an Islamic state.[15]” If even the Turkish government found his teachings too extreme, why should Americans to support him?

]]> By: Transitionland http://registan.net/index.php/2009/10/26/fethullahcilar-education-and-the-future-of-central-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-383185 Transitionland Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:23:27 +0000 http://www.registan.net/?p=9767#comment-383185 <i>"The more forms of identity that don’t involve blind chauvanism and dogmatic polemics, the better off the region is. Let’s see if this one takes root at all."</i> Exactly. The expansion of Fethullahcilar education in Central Asia (and, to a lesser extent, the Balkans) is definitely something to watch with an open mind. “The more forms of identity that don’t involve blind chauvanism and dogmatic polemics, the better off the region is. Let’s see if this one takes root at all.”

Exactly. The expansion of Fethullahcilar education in Central Asia (and, to a lesser extent, the Balkans) is definitely something to watch with an open mind.

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