SNB Threatens Jizzakh Youth Activists

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by Nathan Hamm on 2/10/2012 · 54 comments

Dmitriy Nurullayev and Aziz Yuldashev, natives of Uzbekistan residing in the United States, returned to their hometown of Jizzakh in late December 2011 to visit family. Both are officers of Awareness Projects International, a non-profit engaging in human rights education work in Uzbekistan and elsewhere.

On 2 January, Nurullayev was summoned to the local police department, where he was told to report to the main Jizzakh police department on 3 January. This first interview, conducted by two SNB officers, lasted an hour. The officers asked questions about Nurullayev’s past and present activities and accused him of desiring to overthrow the government of Islom Karimov by forming social and political movements among the youth. The agents were very aware of Nurullayev and Yuldashev’s non-profit group and the operations of their human rights projects in Uzbekistan.

The content of the programming at the camps was no doubt controversial in the eyes of Uzbekistan’s repressive government. The camps were held each summer 2007-2009 and covered issues such as human right, HIV/AIDS, and gender equality. Nurullayev was present for the 2007 and 2009 camps. He says that one topic on which he spent a lot of time was Uzbekistan’s political structure and how Islom Karimov is the unquestioned, sole authority over every part of government. He also told students that Karimov’s current term in office, his third, is unconstitutional, given the prohibition on more than two consecutive terms. Nurullayev says he also discussed mistreatment and sexual abuse of women, the widespread use of forced child labor in Uzbekistan’s cotton industry, and the catastrophe of the Aral Sea. The SNB agents told Nurullayev that his conclusions about Uzbekistan and everything he taught children during these camps were merely myths, and that spreading this information placed him at risk of being declared an enemy of the state for trying to destabilize the country’s youth.

Picture drawn by an attendee of one of Nurullayev's summer camps in Uzbekistan when asked to express his feelings on human rights in Uzbekistan.


After the interview, Nurullayev was left alone in a cold room without water, where he was told he had the opportunity to take some time to think about what he’d done. When the agent who had conducted most of the interview returned, he told Nurullayev to return in two days and threatened to punish Nurullayev’s relatives remaining in Uzbekistan if he failed to comply. Before he was allowed to leave, the agent told him to write a detailed statement — to be turned in to the police the following day — about his life, covering ever place he had lived, those with whom he had come in contact, schools he had attended, and countries he had visited.

The interview on 5 January lasted several hours and was conducted by the same SNB agents. The officers questioned Nurullayev extensively about his involvement with a Peace Corps Volunteer that lived with Nurullayev’s family in 2004 and 2005 and who later helped Nurullayev attend college in the United States. The agents claimed the Volunteer and his family work for the CIA and said that their association meant Nurullayev was also a CIA asset. They accused Nurullayev of having received training from the Volunteer on how to create social and political instability in Uzbekistan. The agents further claimed that Nurullayev was selected by the State Department to receive a FLEX scholarship to attend high school in the U.S. in order to receive additional training on how to destabilize Uzbekistan. The agents took down Nurullayev’s U.S. address and the names of everyone with whom he had meaningful contact. They also forced him to give them his email address and password.

The SNB officers then told Nurullayev he had a chance to help himself out of his situation by agreeing to work for the SNB. When he asked whether or not he had a choice, the officers angrily told him that he could choose to do as they told him or he could choose to be found to be an enemy of the state and sentenced to 17 years in prison, telling Nurullayev, “You know what happens to boys like you in prison.”

Nurullayev agreed with everything they demanded after that, signing a statement acknowledging he now works for the SNB, is willingly under their watch, that he will report significant life changes to them, that he will find and report to them any information they demand, and that disclosing this to agreement to U.S. officials would result in him being sentenced to 17 years in prison in Uzbekistan. He was told that he would be required to report back to the SNB in no more than two years. The agents reminded him before he left of the mess he had created and that they were offering him a chance to clean it up.

Aziz Yuldashev teaching at a summer camp in Uzbekistan


Once he returned to the United States, Nurullayev says he immediately reported what had taken place to U.S. authorities and disclosed the agreement the SNB made him sign.

He says that Aziz Yuldashev, who is also back in the United States, had almost the same experience with SNB agents in Jizzakh. Yuldashev worked alongside Nurullayev on their organization’s programs in Uzbekistan and was active at the summer camps. He too was questioned extensively about his human rights work and that he was compelled to sign a nearly identical agreement. Like Nurullayev, Yuldashev also reported the incident to U.S. authorities.

Their story, sadly, is far from the worst of tales of harassment and abuse of activists by Uzbekistan’s security services. However, it does highlight the extents to which the SNB go to totally neutralize any and all threats to the regime and their tactics of neutralizing activists and dissidents by forcing them to sign agreements that can compromise their credibility among other activists and frighten them into staying out of Uzbekistan.


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Will February 10, 2012 at 8:36 pm

Sorry, I am a bit skeptical when I read stories like this. Unless he became a U.S. citizen, I am more inclined to believe that he actively sought out a perfect opportunity to get a refugee status.
First, what is the point from forcing someone to sign a statement acknowledging he now works for the SNB? Besides, a written statement cannot be a binding contract.
Second, why did he report it to the U.S. authorities (what authorities exactly)? Is he a citizen of the U.S.?

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Nathan February 12, 2012 at 2:38 am

1) to intimidate and compromise the individual
2) why not?

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Will February 12, 2012 at 12:37 pm

1) Understood.
2) What is the point?

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Nathan Hamm February 12, 2012 at 1:32 pm

It diminishes the ability of the agreement to be used to blackmail.

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Dmitriy February 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Was just about to say that.

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Dmitriy Nurullayev February 10, 2012 at 10:04 pm

Dear Will,
I am not sure what to say to you. I have no idea why they did what they did. I just know what happened to me.A written statement can be used to blackmail us. Also, I do not know why you are concerned about a binding contract. A written statement is a written statement.

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Prohojiy February 11, 2012 at 9:08 am

Agree with Will. Sounds like a made up story in order to get a refugee status in US. And it is a bit strange that they did lectures in English for Uzbek kids.

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Nathan Hamm February 12, 2012 at 2:41 am

I helped run a whole week long summer camp for 12-14 year olds in English in Bukhara.

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Dmitriy February 12, 2012 at 3:51 pm

I was a participant at those ! Though not in Bukhara ! Good times ! Small world !

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Someone February 11, 2012 at 11:44 am

To all the naysayers – please, don’t put your two cents into something that you have no idea about and have not lived it yourself. If there is anything you should know about Uzbek security forces and their tactics then you should just look at the current state of plight of the Uzbek people living there. It is a virtual police state where the only thing that is not controlled is what you silently think in your head, everything else is under complete control. The extent of this repressive regime goes on par with those of N Korea and what used to be under Saddam in Iraq. Threatening family members and actually punishing them for the activities of the alleged perpetrators is a widely used tactic and it is no secret.

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Will February 11, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Please, don’t lecture me on the oppressive uzbek regime if you have no idea where I am from. I am not denying anything here, but based on all the facts presented here I asked two legitimate questions.

P.S. Dmitriy, which authorities in the U.S. did you report and why?

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Guy Fawkes February 12, 2012 at 2:42 am

You are right on the money! Uzbekistan is a police state and as you said, the only thing that is not controlled is what people think in their head. If that was possible, SNB and the police would have done it, believe me. I agree that Uzbekistan is on par with North Korea in terms of brutality against its own people but in terms of corruption Uzbekistan is considered more corrupt. According to Transparency International’s 2010 Corruption Index there are only 9 countries in the world that are rated “Highly Corrupt” and Uzbekistan is one of them. Tajikistan is the only other post-Soviet country on the list. Mind you that the ultimate goal of each SNB agent and each policeman is material gain by way of intimidation of general populace. So “very high corruption” rate means that a lot of ordinary people in Uzbekistan are being threatened into giving up their hard-earned money.

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Metin February 11, 2012 at 1:06 pm

Stories about ‘ugly’ security agents harassing innocent people seem to sell well here. Not a very long time ago similar story was reported here about suicide by moslem woman after being interviewed by agents. That story turned out to be hoax.

Even if this reported story is true and boys are not lying there is no way to prove that boys had conversation with agents (unless they noted their names and saw their IDs), not someone else. In such a situation, it would have been logical to consult a professional lawyer for advice. The fact, that they chose to report to US authorities instead is a bit weird.

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Someone February 12, 2012 at 10:32 am

So in your view one hoax story should invalidate a long and proven history of brutality by the Uzbek “IAK” dogs…? Obviously, you have some kind of a stake in this or you are completely ignorant of the facts… My impression was that whoever comes to this site and participates in these conversations also visits others sites on this subject matter and as far as I know, there isn’t much of positiveness in the conduct of the Uzbek regime told on any site. So you are either a neutral individual sympathetic to this oppressive regime (which is fine as long as you can live with yourself) or your job, as mentioned below, is to “sharpshoot” to the contrary the legitimate points put forth in these articles. Either case, any efforts by anybody who wants to contradict what’s really going on in Uzbekistan or paint a brighter picture will go in vain!

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Guy Fawkes February 12, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Hear hear!!!

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Nathan Hamm February 13, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Metin, I wouldn’t say they “sell” well here. These stories are pretty common, but because we are not primarily a news producing or advocacy site, a lot of them never get mentioned here.

I think it’s tremendously unfair and dishonest to dismiss such stories because of the Gulsumoy hoax. Part of why that story was initially believed is precisely because the security services are “ugly,” to borrow your term. This story sounds credible to me, and I checked elements of it with others whom I trust to make sure they found it credible too. There are elements of it that are almost identical to the questioning in 2001 of an American colleague of mine. (FWIW, the questioning was in this case and the colleague, who worked at the university, was questioned because, well, as the SNB knows, the U.S.A. is pure unadulterated evil bent on destroying Uzbekistan.)

Do you think such abuse simply doesn’t happen?

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Metin February 13, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Nathan, you might be right. I am not an expert on this, so have not much to say. However, one needs to double check stories like that as there was already story turned out to be hoax posted in your blog. Do you really think this is unfair and dishonest?

You might be doing really noble job if the story is true. I wish you did the same for people [b]really[/b] in trouble like Uzbeks in Southern Kyrgyzstan. Of course, if you care.

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Nathan Hamm February 13, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Metin, skepticism and compassion are tough to balance. I won’t say that you intend to be unfair, but I think that the skepticism about these stories can become unfair.

I do care about the plight of the Uzbeks in southern Kyrgyzstan. While I’ve not written much about the situation on this blog, others — Noah, Sarah, and Josh — have, and because I think they have done so better than I would have, I haven’t added anything. I do write a lot of sarcastic tweets about Kyrgyz nationalism though!

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Gulsumoy February 15, 2012 at 12:29 pm

So Gulsumoy story was not real? How do we know that for certain?
Did German authorities actually confirm that the person had
never crossed the German border? Huh?

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Gulsumoy February 15, 2012 at 12:35 pm

By “actually confirmed” I mean “FORMALLY confirmed”.

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Will February 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm

The woman behind the story came forward that she made it up. Also, many other “facts” of the story turned out to be false. So there is no need to further investigate the story.

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Gulsumoy February 28, 2012 at 8:16 am

Any prooflink?

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Dmitriy February 11, 2012 at 3:29 pm

Dear All,
The article provides a link to our website and photos of all of our projects. Please visit the site to see for yourself. I am afraid we could not make up hundreds of photos with hundreds of young people in them.
The logic that some story A is not true therefore B is not true also seems silly.
As for consulting a lawyer, again you are assuming that we did not consult a lawyer.
As for lectures, there are hundreds of kids who speak english in Jizzakh and this was a great way for them to practise English.

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Guy Fawkes February 12, 2012 at 2:26 am

Dmitriy,

In case you didn’t know Will and Metin are the same person and he works for SNB and is based either Uzbekistan or at the Uzbek embassy in Washington, DC. Every time there is a new post critical of the Uzbek regime, SNB or the police he tries to shift the gears and direct the conversation into a totally different territory so that people do not discuss the nefarious activities that they engage on a daily basis, all in the name to safe the status quo.

Also, he way he is questioning why the classes were conducted in English. This shows that either he has a very old mentality or he is just being an SNB agent, trying to find fault with anythung he can and intimidate. That is the name of his game.

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Will February 12, 2012 at 12:33 pm

Aren’t you tired of spreading lies about me? I don’t know Metin and his association with Uzbek authorities. I ask Nathan Hamm, the founder of registan.net, WITHOUT revealing our IP addresses, clarify to the public that Metin and I are NOT the same person. I am based neither in Uzbekistan nor in Washington, D.C. Metin has told us before that he leaves comments from Uzbekistan. I doubt though this will be enough to satisfy you as you are not prepared to debate with someone who not always agrees with your line of thinking.

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Nathan Hamm February 12, 2012 at 1:29 pm

Will, I was meaning to clarify that. Thanks for reminding me.

Yes, Will and Metin are different people. They’ve got many miles of land and sea between them.

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Guy Fawkes February 12, 2012 at 3:18 pm

This website is supposed to generate discussion about Central Asia in general and Uzbekistan in particular. This by no means should be a place for SNB people to nip any dissenting thought at the bud. Nathan, I am perplexed that you don’t see or ignore the possibility that Metin and Will are the regime, if you think about it and you allow them to hijack the conversation.

Trawling the internet to hijack discussion and preventing any spotlight on regime’s brutality is being widely practiced by Russian and Uzbek national security forces these days. What Metin and Will do is exactly this, go from site to site and try to deflect criticism of the regime. It is all in the name of buying more time for the regime and intimidating people in order to take their possessions, hard-earned cash and beating them into submission. Simple as that.

Josh and Nathan, please enlighten me about the added value of allowing Uzbek SNB people monitor discussion on your forum. Metin and Will are the only two people I have seen in my life that defend the regime no matter of what, often without any regard for their fellow human being’s ordeals suffered at the hands of the Uzbek police and SNB.

Something is not right here and I am trying to bring it to your attention.

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Will February 12, 2012 at 6:53 pm

LOL. I have heard/read instances where people from Uzbekistan got political asylum in the U.S. under the false pretense that they had been prosecuted by the law enforcement forces for their religious beliefs, political opinions, etc., so I have reasons to be skeptical. Being skeptical rather than taking somebody or something on faith doesn’t mean that I don’t believe the law enforcement services doesn’t make one’s life miserable. The fact that you can’t accept the plurality of opinions makes you no different from the regime you despise so much.

P.S. 1. Next time when you accuse someone, please give us the source/links to back up your accusations. Otherwise, you are acting up like a little child who can’t stand up for himself by asking his parents to punish the other child.
2. I am ready to leave the moment I am not welcome by the founders of this blog.

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Sarah Kendzior February 13, 2012 at 6:44 am

FYI, I started to write a response to this thread about the difficulty inherent in discussing the SNB online, but it was long and veered off in a different direction, so I made it into a separate post:

http://registan.net/index.php/2012/02/12/when-everyones-a-spy-talking-about-the-snb-online/

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Guy Fawkes February 13, 2012 at 10:04 am

Are you telling me that SNB or the Uzbek police have at least a smidgen of transparency and everything they do is public or just a click away so that I can point to a link about their nefarious activities whenever I am talking about it? Give me a break! Or maybe you want a proof that you and Metin work for SNB or the Uzbek police. You defend the regime in all of your posts and try to disrupt all conversation about the regime. By all means, work for them, somebody has to do that. But what I find really abhorrent is that you don’t show any compassion to those who have suffered at the hands of the regime. Instead of showing simple compassion you try to discredit their stories and their ordeal. What does that tell about you? It is a common practice of Uzbek SNB and the police to beat people down and kick them while they are down to send a message, “keep your head down (and give us your money while you are at it) or else we will cut your head off.” By not showing compassion that you are doing, kicking them while they are down to send your message.

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Will February 13, 2012 at 3:15 pm

I am talking specifically about this: “What Metin and Will do is exactly this, go from site to site and try to deflect criticism of the regime.”

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Guy Fawkes February 13, 2012 at 11:31 am

You talk about a diversity of opinions. Well, you are fighting tooth and nail against that diversity of opinions with what you are doing here. This is why I thought you and Metin should be banned from this website.

I am sure people in Uzbekistan have something to say about that “plurality of opinions”.

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Will February 13, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Well, if you delete my comments and others’ who are either skeptical or rejecting this story as an outright false, then would you have no much a diversity here.

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Sarah Kendzior February 13, 2012 at 3:48 pm

No one is deleting you or anyone else. It takes a LOT to get deleted or banned here. To my knowledge, only one person has been banned in the nearly 10-year history of the site, and that was for cyber-lunacy of legendary proportions — the person in question is a notorious internet troll who has been blocked, banned and lost employment for similar vile behavior elsewhere. Registan is an open forum that welcomes diverse opinions.

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Nathan Hamm February 13, 2012 at 3:59 pm

I think he wasn’t directing that at us.

And because I feel like being all open and stuff, I think I’ve banned three people from commenting. There was one more who was a guy who always accessed the site from his company’s domain. In that case, I actually blocked that IP address from even being able to access the site.

Will February 13, 2012 at 4:25 pm

No, I didn’t mean that.

P.S. I was wondering why the troll stopped writing, now I know that person is no longer employed there. Good riddance.

Guy Fawkes February 13, 2012 at 4:51 pm

The regime you are defending rates one of the top 5 most corrupt countries in the word according to Transparency International. So defend this: http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/

Corruption in Uzbekistan happens under intimidation and that makes it worse. Doesn’t matter if you are a criminal, a dissident, a successful businessman or just an average guy returning from work – you will be stopped, intimidated and they will take your money. Don’t dare even ask why they are taking your money because they will threaten with planting narcotics on you. This is why Uzbekistan is on top of the most corrupt countries on this earth. The Daily Beast published its own list of 20 Most Corrupt Countries and guess what, Uzbekistan is #1 on that list. What do you have to say about it? Intimidation, constant surveillance, kicking people down seems political but it all boils down to economics, SNB and the police have the power and they want to use that power to line their pockets. That’s what it is and this is why Uzbekistan is #1 most corrupt country. I would love to see you respond to this.

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Nathan Hamm February 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm

If Will is an SNB or regime agent, then he’s posted in a weird place or using a good redirect.

Here’s my take on Metin. When he first started commenting, his optimism about the state of things in Uzbekistan made me suspicious. He has, however, been critical (mildly) at times and willing to admit that there are problems in Uzbekistan. In general, he strikes me as very similar to many Uzbeks whom I both knew when I was there and still meet from time to time who are willing to acknowledge problems in Uzbekistan but think that things aren’t as bad as everyone says because (insert various explanations). Sometimes these people are doing fine themselves; they either have all the money they need or are even prospering (and have yet to be shaken down by the police). More often, they’re pretty similar to plenty of my fellow Americans who do not accept that criticism and patriotism can co-exist in most cases. This can result in some extremely dissonant views, but it doesn’t mean it’s not genuine.

So, I don’t think these guys are SNB, nor do I have much reason to believe they’re agents of the Uzbek government. (I’ve been accused of being a paid agent for the Uzbek government, the Bush administration, Soros, etc. None of it’s true, and these accusations are too often a strategy to discredit the accused without evidence and help the accuser feel like they are raging against the machine.) The value added then, is that a viewpoint that genuinely does exist among the people of Uzbekistan gets an opportunity to be presented.

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Will February 13, 2012 at 4:16 pm

Nathan, I don’t know how it looks for the outside readers, but I feel the same: the constant accusations by Guy Fawkes is doing exactly the same, discredit me without evidence. Guy Fawkes (who also wrote under the pseudonym “Uzbek”) is known for frequent belittling his opponents; he has accused me or others, who disagree with him, of having low IQ (apparently, reading WSJ boosts one’s IQ), poor English, and, of course being an agent, while he boasts of his high credit score (higher than 90% of Americans) , earnings (more than 80% of Americans), various other accomplishments. For me this was enough long ago to conclude that he is immature and hypocrite who is afraid even of his shadow.
As for Metin, I don’t know him and I don’t agree with him on many occasions (though I don’t express my opinion on every single issue), even though it might seem to Guy Fawkes that Metin and I have common ground on many issues. Now that you have dispersed the clouds of doubt, he, instead of apologizing for insulting me, switched his strategy: get your opponent banned.

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Will February 13, 2012 at 4:31 pm

“Now that you have dispersed the clouds of doubt, he, instead of apologizing for insulting me, switched his strategy: get your opponent banned.”
“he” refers to Guy Fawkes. Sorry.

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Guy Fawkes February 13, 2012 at 5:35 pm

“Disperse the clouds of doubt”? LOL. Which literary dictionary did you look it up in? Before you go and take this conversation down to your level let me tell you why I think so. You took “SNB’s dog” as an insult not knowing that “dog” in English doesn’t carry the same negative connotation as it does in Uzbek or Russian. You are thinking in Uzbek/Russian and then translating your thoughts into English; reading in English and translating them word-for-word into Uzbek/Russian. This is why you took it as an insult. Your mistake/weakness (take your pick) not mine, so my apology would look out-of-place here.

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Will February 13, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Not really. That you said to Metin.

Aziz Yuldashev February 13, 2012 at 6:59 pm

Please! Lets not get into drama here. All Dmitriy and I wanted is to share what happened to us. If you disagree, that’s fine it is your right for your opinion. Post your opinions, but please, lets stay away from drama, eh?

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Will February 13, 2012 at 8:47 pm

Aziz, the drama has long been started by Guy, who hijacked the topic to a totally different direction. This is not the first time that this has happened, so I had to respond to the accusations and asked Nathan to finally clarify that Metin and I not the same person. I apologize for the discussion being diverted by Guy and me responding to this troll.

Nathan, if possible would you please delete the latest comments that are not relevant to the topic. Let’s keep on topic.

Guy Fawkes February 12, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Dmitry, you should be grateful to have gotten away with your life and to have come out of the interview in one piece and not have been tortured or anything like that. I understand how emotionally torturous must have been the experience but what can you do now? Just move one with your life and put this experience behind you.

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Dmitriy February 12, 2012 at 3:58 pm

Thanks for the comment.

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Aziz Yuldashev February 13, 2012 at 7:01 pm

I am seeing a therapist! That really helps. Thanks for your comment, Guy!

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Peter February 13, 2012 at 1:41 am

Having been a Peace Corps volunteer in Jizzak from 2002-2004 who personally knew (and taught) Nurullayev, I can say with full confidence that his story rings true. The English language summer camps were just that: summer camps. Most of the activities were those you would see in summer camps everywhere, such as hiking, sports, arts and crafts, and so on. There were also a few ‘NGO-community’ type topics, such as discussions on environmental and gender issues, that were in no way designed to touch on the current political regime. English was used because the students wanted a chance to practice their English skills. A good time was had by all, so much so that the Uzbek participants decided from their own volition to continue the camps even after Peace Corps had left the country.

I can also say that the Peace Corps volunteer Nurullaev lived with was not a CIA agent. He was a 22- or 23-year old college grad who had had no significant international job experience before Peace Corps. His family also had no connection to the international policy/intelligence world.

Nurullaev showed strong leadership skills when I taught him, which set him apart from many other young Uzbeks I knew whose primary goal was to get a visa/go to America without any further future plans. Nothing about him gives me reason to doubt his story.

On a personal note — I hope everything is ok with you, Dima. My thoughts are with you!

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Dmitriy February 13, 2012 at 8:51 am

Hey Peter !
Good to hear from you ! Hope all is well !
Still remember our mock interviews at the peace corps summer camp ! My website has my e.mail listed, hope to get back in touch.
Cheers !

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Justin February 13, 2012 at 6:07 am

I remember well, when many years ago, my interpreter came to me saying he had been approached by a member of the Uzbek Security forces with the demand that he report my daily activities to them. He asked me what he should do. I told him to do as they asked. For a very long time he did this much to our mutual amusement. How incredibly boring it must have been for the security analysts as my presence was perfectly legitimate over severl years and certainly nothing could have ever been construed as subversive. My interpreter gained a few soum and a number of privileges, one being able to avoid cotton picking. I wonder how many are in the same position today. PS to SNB: don’t bother trying to find out more about this as it was long ago and I haven’t been near your country for ten years.

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Sarah Kendzior February 13, 2012 at 6:52 am

I started to write a response to this thread about the difficulty inherent in discussing the SNB online, but it was long and veered off in a different direction, so I made it into a separate post:

http://registan.net/index.php/2012/02/12/when-everyones-a-spy-talking-about-the-snb-online/

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Alima Bissenova February 14, 2012 at 2:06 pm

OK, let me re-post my post on Sarah’s article since it concerns this article too…
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Also, one way of addressing the problem of how to talk about something which is difficult to prove is to adopt a correct language. For instance, the title of Nathan Hamm’s article says “SNB threatens activists.” Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say something like “Activists say they were threatened by SNB”…? This way it is not reported as an undisputed fact. Readers understand that they are hearing only ONE side of the story; it does not “insult” anybody’s intelligence and people don’t feel that they have to question the validity of the claim since there are no claims made. Well, I guess there are still claims but they are modest claims…:-)

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Nathan Hamm February 14, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Fair point about the headline, but I’d wager a hefty sum that they responses would be precisely the same.

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Tolkun February 14, 2012 at 10:54 pm

Here is a link to interview with Nurullayev (in Uzbek) where he speaks about the interview with SNB officers in Uzbekistan:

http://www.ozodlik.org/content/article/24483817.html

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